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I know many people ask this question but...what are my chances...

Jameski

Samsonite... I was WAY off!!
Hey staff,

You have to put every college and university you have attended down on your app. I'm just going through this now but my recruiter said that your final GPA is a big one they look at but since you have to send in every transcript, they can see those as well. It probably is a bigger factor if you are neck-in-neck with someone but maybe someone that has been through the whole process could speak with greater knowledge. :)
 

GWU

Registered User
"I have LOR's from a two star Admiral, the Congressman I work for, and a Navy Commander, who is in aviation."



Can your Congressman help you out at all - you are on his staff? Of course that is just a guess. Maybe having a Congressman make a call would work against you. Who knows?
 

Jameski

Samsonite... I was WAY off!!
Thanks GWU,

Yeah, I currently work for him now as congressional staff and it's an amazing experience. He is a really good guy (which is sometimes hard to find in politics) and both he and our chief of staff support me going into the Navy fully so I'm getting a really good LOR from him, which I think will help a lot (hopefully!). I think besides that, a call from him maybe could complicate things with the board since they aren't breaking any Federal law or bending rules (that we know of!). Thanks though GWU!

I actually went back to Washington a couple of years ago during the summer to work for the Congressman on a special project and stayed on the GW campus for the summer, since I was only there for about three months. I think I stayed in the Madison Dorm. That's a crazy city!
 

VetteMuscle427

is out to lunch.
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staff said:
Hey guys, I'm gonna be applying for BDCP SNA this coming summer. I transferred from a community college to Texas A&M and did poorly on my grades this semester. I was just wondering if one bad semester will kill my application or if they will understand that the transition is a difficult one to a major university? Also, are my grades from the community college going to be in my application or do I leave those out? Thanks


Might be a killer cause it is unknown how you will do in the future at university.

I had a killer semester my freshman year, but I got scared of flunking out and brought myself up. Took till the end of my junior year to get my GPA competitive enough to get in, and that was after a few semesters of realllly good grades.
 

staff

Registered User
Here's the deal: I got really good grades at my community college and that first semester at Texas A&M wasn't good, I didn't fail anything, but it still wasn't good. I figured out that by the time I send my application in I will be going into my sophmore year and hopefully have a gpa of around 3.3 in engineering at A&M. So do you think that one semester will kill me?
 

wink

War Hoover NFO.
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Super Moderator
Contributor
staff said:
Here's the deal: I got really good grades at my community college and that first semester at Texas A&M wasn't good, I didn't fail anything, but it still wasn't good. I figured out that by the time I send my application in I will be going into my sophmore year and hopefully have a gpa of around 3.3 in engineering at A&M. So do you think that one semester will kill me?
They usually want to see a full year at a 4 year school after transfer from a JC. I don't believe it is written anywhere, but it is for the reason you stated you had a problem, the transition.

Oh ya, no phone calls from the congressman or the staff. A LOR is great, nothing more.
Good Luck
 

Sly1978

Living the Dream
pilot
staff said:
Here's the deal: I got really good grades at my community college and that first semester at Texas A&M wasn't good, I didn't fail anything, but it still wasn't good. I figured out that by the time I send my application in I will be going into my sophmore year and hopefully have a gpa of around 3.3 in engineering at A&M. So do you think that one semester will kill me?

I transfered from a community college in Texas to a state school after my sophomore year. I'm not sure if you realize this, but your CC grades don't have anything to do with your overall GPA at A&M. The only GPA the Navy will see (or care about) is your A&M GPA. It was said that they'll want transcripts from all your schools for BDCP. It may have changed, but when I was applying I'm pretty sure that all I had to send was my UT-Arlington transcript, and that had "T" (for transfer) in the grade section for my two years worth of classes at the CC. I had also only completed one semester at UTA before I got picked up. So even though my grades at the CC weren't stellar, it didn't matter because my GPA started over at the four-year school.
The main advice for all of this is just apply. There are a lot of intangibles that affect your chances of getting picked up besides raw scores. I honestly don't even remember what my ASTB scores were. I had to submit my application on three different occasions before I was picked up.
Another hot topic here seems to be LORs. When I was applying, I was told that the best LOR is one from somebody who knows you well. The LORs are to establish your personal character, not how well connected you are. My LORs were from my buddie's dad (unemployed engineer who had been "downsized" from Motorolla), my ninth-grade Geography teacher (I kept in touch with him over the years. He was a Marine in Vietnam who died of Leukemia shortly after my first application so I had to explain the date on the LOR on my subsequent applications (definitely worth it! That LOR was a thing of beauty!)), and one of my church leaders who'd known me since high school. Nobody's name worth dropping at a cocktail party, but I'll take the fact that everyday I strap myself into an orange and white helicopter with "Navy" painted on the side as proof that I did something right when I applied.
Finally, a big decision for everyone applying for any commissioning program is this: Which is more important to you, being a pilot, or being a Naval Officer? The more options you give them, the better off you'll be. I realize that you put down three choices on the application, and you should definitely put pilot down as number 1. The others are up to you. Just make sure that you can live with your second and third choice. That same idea should stay with you into flight school. I know several people who got into the flight program and decided that it wasn't what they wanted to do with their lives (I don't know why, but it happens). Leave your options open while still keeping an eye on your goals.
 

staff

Registered User
Thanks for the advice guys, I guess I'm just a little nervous about the whole application even if it will be a few months before I even start putting it together. Hopefully things work out and Ill try to rock the grades this semester to look a little better. It's just that the only thing I want to do with my life is to be a naval officer and hopefully an aviator so I guess this nervous feeling is usual.
 

etnuclearsailor

STA 21 Nuclear OC
To the OP: If you went to Temple, why didn't you join the NROTC? They have a cross-town agreement with U.Penn, same as Drexel has. Just curious, that's all.
 

wink

War Hoover NFO.
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Super Moderator
Contributor
The recruiter will get transcripts from every school you attended. It is true that a transcript from A&M will only show credit for classes taken elsewhere, with no GPA noted. But you will have to send an actual transcipt from the community college you attended and the board will take those grades into account. When you fill in the GPA block on your application you can figure the cumm GPA from all schools you attended. The board will look at the various transripts seperately. All the rest Sly said about LORs and your three program choices is right on.
 

Jameski

Samsonite... I was WAY off!!
Hey Etnuclearsailor,

I actually went to the Temple University campus in Tokyo, Japan so we didn't have the ROTC program there. Since it was a branch campus off of main my degree and everything is from Temple main campus here in the States but there was no ROTC program. I was actually in NROTC at Oregon State for the first part of my college years but decided I wanted to go back to Japan (grew up on a base in northern Japan throughout high school) and when I got accepted to Temple, I headed over the pond. So, that's why I'm going the OCS way now. :)
 

Jameski

Samsonite... I was WAY off!!
Hey Joey,

He hasn't really said much about that...there is a space on the application that I had to fill in that I was in NROTC and the reason I stepped out of it but that's about it. Man...I sure hope it doesn't work against me though...anyone have any info on that?
 

wink

War Hoover NFO.
None
Super Moderator
Contributor
Jameski said:
Hey Joey,

He hasn't really said much about that...there is a space on the application that I had to fill in that I was in NROTC and the reason I stepped out of it but that's about it. Man...I sure hope it doesn't work against me though...anyone have any info on that?
Should not if you have a decent reason for it. Sounds like you have a good story. Make sure you write a nice apragraph or two on it. Emphasize what an opportunity going to Temple in Tokyo was and history you have there.
 

Jameski

Samsonite... I was WAY off!!
Thanks Wink! Yeah, I'll write something nice up...when it comes to the remarks section, is more better or is "just the facts ma'am" the way to go?
 
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