International Burn a Qu'ran Day

[usmarinemike]

Has anybody really leveled with these people and told them in unPC terms what their actions are going to cause?

These 50 fucktards are going to perpetuate the violence which they are "commemorating." I think a biker gang needs to go "beseech" that church on Saturday morning to not go through with this in public.

I know the government cant stop them, but they can't be allowed to do this.

 

[Beans]

That's a great idea... the Patriot Guard Riders would do well to surround this scar on our nation with a ring of noise and steel. Obviously fighting their attitudes with violence would kind of have a negative effect. But it can't be emphasized enough how much these idiots, despite their right to do so, deface the principles we risk our lives upon.

 

[jtmedli]

The beauty of our constitution: It's a free country and you can do what you want. That includes making the most of yourself and pretty much be anything you want to be.

The bad part: Idiots like this can do what they want too. That includes being ignorant fuck-tards who've probably never read the quran, much less have a clue about the 2nd order implications of their actions.

 

[gparks1989]

"The most stringent protection of free speech would not protect a man falsely shouting fire in a theater and causing a panic"

Just because you can doesn't mean you should.......

It enrages me beyond all belief that a whackjob leader of a 50 person congregation causes protests and ill feelings towards the US and those serving the US in places like Afghanistan.

 

[Brett327]

I hope they're all beheaded - every last one.

Brett

 

[mmx1]

Petraeus made the unusual move of making a statement asking them not to do it (I guess the protests in Kabul made it appropriate for him to weigh in). They don't care. I heard the guy on the news this morning; truly Fred Phelps stupid.

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[eas7888]

<Sarcasm> I've been planning my road trip to Florida ever since I heard about this. I will SO be there, I'll be bringing my own box of books to burn too. Do you think they would get angry if I threw a few Bibles on the fire? </Sarcasm>

 

[phrogdriver]

I understand why this would appeal to some people.

That said, this is going to make things worse for us overseas, and probably get Americans killed. That's a sad testament to both the people doing the burning, and those who would incite violence because of it.

Doesn't anybody read, umm, history, or even Ray Bradbury? The whole burning books concept has been shown to be a categorical failure.

Complete random thought here--if you get the Koran on your Kindle, does it become a sacred object? That thought popped into my head while typing this and I just can't shake it. If I run out of space and I need to delete it from the memory, will I receive a fat'wa against me?

 

[eas7888]

Complete random thought here--if you get the Koran on your Kindle, does it become a sacred object? That thought popped into my head while typing this and I just can't shake it. If I run out of space and I need to delete it from the memory, will I receive a fat'wa against me?

I'm afraid that Allah would have to strike you and your Kindle down for such an unholy act.

 

[PropStop]

Hmm, I really thought there'd be a more exciting argument on this one!

 

[Beans]

<Sarcasm> I've been planning my road trip to Florida ever since I heard about this. I will SO be there, I'll be bringing my own box of books to burn too. Do you think they would get angry if I threw a few Bibles on the fire? </Sarcasm>

You'll have to wait in line... the local FD refused to issue a bonfire permit, so they have to keep it smaller than 3'x3'
It seems to me like everyone is watching and waiting for them to break one constitutionally-upheld law... and then they'll be shut down faster than you can say Ku Klux Klan.

 

[phrogdriver]

<Sarcasm> I've been planning my road trip to Florida ever since I heard about this. I will SO be there, I'll be bringing my own box of books to burn too. Do you think they would get angry if I threw a few Bibles on the fire? </Sarcasm>

The thing is, no one would pay attention to a Bible-burning except Fox News. CNN would ignore it. Olbermann would denounce the Christian extremists who had the nerve to write letters to the organizers of the Bible-burning as #2 on his "Countdown" on MSNBC.

I am completely against book burnings as a principle. In this case, that general disapproval is amplified by knowing that our troops could be endangered by the blowback from this.

However, the one thing this reveals that upsets me is that Muslims are treated with kid gloves because they're well-known for going completely off the deep end in regards to their religion being slighted. Many newspapers were afraid to even print copies of the Danish Mohammed cartoons, for example. Until Islam is ready to join the Enlightenment, 500 years late, do we have to look out for it and protect it from any real or imagined slight?

 

[HackerF15E]

Retarded idea.

Phrog, totally agree with your point about the chip on the shoulder of Islam about being slighted.

 

[desertoasis]

Complete random thought here--if you get the Koran on your Kindle, does it become a sacred object? That thought popped into my head while typing this and I just can't shake it. If I run out of space and I need to delete it from the memory, will I receive a fat'wa against me?

I think translations of the Quran are not considered holy, because they are not the original Arabic texts. It's only a quran with the Arabic text included that is considered holy, something to do with the Quran's text being divine and unchangeable, so a translation would lessen its purity.

 

[desertoasis]

Hmm, I really thought there'd be a more exciting argument on this one!

Nah, I'm pretty sure on this forum, everyone is against soldiers potentially dying because of other people's stupidity.