Iranian UAV orbits CVN-76 for 25 minutes

[Fly Navy]

If you didn't recognize the sarcasm in that, then you really need to go take a walk around the block and get your sense of humor back. Anyone who watches the news for two seconds would not trust the better part of half of the American public for any policy.

I wasn't talking about htat post, I was talking about your posts. I like you dude, but you need to absorb some more.

 

[A4sForever]

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*** I also wouldn't say we cleaned the clocks of the NVA and VC in Vietnam.... it wasn't a blowout. 58,000 dead is not cleaning anyones clock, if it is... you might what to look at your definition of acceptable losses.

Well ... since you weren't there .... try these:

World War II (1941–1945)
Total servicemembers 16,112,566
Battle deaths 291,557
Other deaths in service (nontheater) 113,842
Nonmortal woundings 671,846
Living veterans 4,762,0001

Korean War (1950–1953)
Total servicemembers 5,720,000
Serving in-theater 1,789,000
Battle deaths 33,741
Other deaths in service (theater) 2,827
Other deaths in service (nontheater) 17,730
Nonmortal woundings 103,284
Living veterans 3,734,0001

Vietnam War (1964–1975)
Total servicemembers 8,744,000
Serving in-theater 3,403,000
Battle deaths 47,410
Other deaths in service (theater) 10,789
Other deaths in service (nontheater) 32,000
Nonmortal woundings 153,303
Living veterans 8,295,000

North Vietnamese/VC casualties ... depending on the source ... 1.7 million to 5 million.

Sources: DOD and Veteran's Administration...

Sooooooooo .... to try to put a KIA price tag on "cleaning clocks" (??) :

In 4 years of WW2 ... we sustained 72,665/year KIA. (did we "clean clocks"??)
In 3 1/2 years of Korea ... we sustained 9,640/year KIA.
In "10" years (+/-) of Vietnam ... we sustained 4,741/year KIA. (let me help you -- we "cleaned")

Conclusion: You choose to use the measurement of "casualties". So be it. But by any yardstick you choose, we "cleaned clock", "cleaned house" and "kicked asses" ... in every category save one --- will. Political and national will.

And so what was sacrificed and won was wasted. What was won on every battlefield: air, land, and sea .... was given away in the White House, the US Congress and in Paris.

Believe it .... no smiles today.

 

[Steve Wilkins]

Heck, a CIWS shattering a UAV would do the trick too... just a little something to put a shadow of a doubt in their minds.

CIWS....the end all, be all of a ship's self-defense.

 

[pennst8]

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to A4sForever again.

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[raptor10]

the Reagan does not have CIWS

 

[Steve Wilkins]

the Reagan does not have CIWS

Uhhh...yea it does.

 

[Steve Wilkins]

^ Uhhh, no it doesn't

Looks like RAM replaced it.

 

[Brett327]

^ Uhhh, no it doesn't

Looks like RAM replaced it.

Damn, Steve-o schooled by the young'un.

Brett

 

[Steve Wilkins]

Puuuhhhleeeze

 

[TXHusker05]

Some people, especially the older guys, on this forum have a problem with not sharing there opinions but telling other people that theirs are wrong. Navy, I respect your opinion (I respect all of your opinions) but tell me what you think as opposed to just telling me I have a lot to learn.

That goes to all of you, including the two of you who gave me bad rep for stating my opinion on the matter while not sharing yours. It is a forum, discuss.

 

[Steve Wilkins]

Some people, especially the older guys, on this forum have a problem with not sharing there opinions but telling other people that theirs are wrong. Navy, I respect your opinion (I respect all of your opinions) but tell me what you think as opposed to just telling me I have a lot to learn.

That goes to all of you, including the two of you who gave me bad rep for stating my opinion on the matter while not sharing yours. It is a forum, discuss.

Again, this only further points to the fact that you have a lot to learn. Don't take it personal. We don't expect you to have the same level of knowledge in the area of naval operations. I learn something here all the time. I'm pretty damn smart, but I certainly don't know everything especially as it applies to the Navy. A lot of what was directed at you was basically in response to many of these folks having a very good understanding of how things work in the fleet. With that comes a strong desire to keep their mouths shut regarding their rebuttal to your comments. A lot of stuff would entail things at the SECRET level or above that really don't even need to be brought up here. Hence, all the comments of "you have a lot to learn." This isn't about a difference of opinion and being afraid to share ours. It's about not choosing to divulge information that has no business being discussed on ANY unclassified medium, much less on AW.

 

[TXHusker05]

What does a possible war with Iran have to do with Naval Operations and classified info?

I would just like to hear what you guys think about the Iran issue (even ignoring the UAV thing), I don't care about classified info or anything... just looking for some opinions.

 

[pilot_man]

A lot of what was directed at you was basically in response to many of these folks having a very good understanding of how things work in the fleet. With that comes a strong desire to keep their mouths shut regarding their rebuttal to your comments. A lot of stuff would entail things at the SECRET level or above that really don't even need to be brought up here. Hence, all the comments of "you have a lot to learn."

Come on now, FLY isn't that salty already. He’s only been in the RAG for a few months.

 

[Fly Navy]

Come on now, FLY isn't that salty already. He’s only been in the RAG for a few months.

Dude, I AM salty... but that's cause I sweat a lot.

 

[Steve Wilkins]

Come on now, FLY isn't that salty already. He’s only been in the RAG for a few months.

Who said he was salty?