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Jonny Kim solos the T-6

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wallythenycat

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Flash said:
For his actions while being a POW, not just being a POW. There is a difference, and his actions while a POW were well deserving of a Silver Star.



While his Silver Star is almost certainly undeserved it has never been rescinded or revoked (whatever the official terminology is) and thus remains a recipient.
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What did McCain do as a POW to merit a SS ? I know that Admiral Stockdale provided leadership to other prisoners while he was a POW. Therefore, he received the MOH for his efforts. I think there was another POW (Bud Day?) received a MOH for attempting an escape.
 
FormerRecruitingGuru

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wallythenycat said:
What did McCain do as a POW to merit a SS ? I know that Admiral Stockdale provided leadership to other prisoners while he was a POW. Therefore, he received the MOH for his efforts. I think there was another POW (Bud Day?) received a MOH for attempting an escape.
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John Mccain Silver Star Citation

For those who think it's easier to annoy you than to Google 'John mccain silver star citation' themselves.
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sevenhelmet

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wallythenycat said:
What did McCain do as a POW to merit a SS ? I know that Admiral Stockdale provided leadership to other prisoners while he was a POW. Therefore, he received the MOH for his efforts. I think there was another POW (Bud Day?) received a MOH for attempting an escape.
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Dude. Message to Garcia… you should be smart enough to research and figure this out on your own.
 
Flash

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wallythenycat said:
What did McCain do as a POW to merit a SS ? I know that Admiral Stockdale provided leadership to other prisoners while he was a POW. Therefore, he received the MOH for his efforts. I think there was another POW (Bud Day?) received a MOH for attempting an escape.
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I am not one to usually be a bit snappy about such things but the least you could do is a modicum of research, I Googled 'McCain Silver Star citation' and this was the top result.

The President of the United States of America takes pleasure in presenting the Silver Star to Commander John Sidney McCain, III (NSN: 0-624787), United States Navy, for conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity while interned as Prisoner of War in North Vietnam from 27 October to 8 December 1967. Commander McCain's captors, completely ignoring international agreements, subjected Commander McCain to extreme mental and physical cruelties in an attempt to obtain military information and false confessions for propaganda purposes. Through his resistance to those brutalities, he contributed significantly toward the eventual abandonment of harsh treatment by the North Vietnamese, which was attracting international attention. By his determination, courage, resourcefulness, and devotion to duty, Commander McCain reflected great credit upon himself and upheld the highest traditions of Naval Service and the United States Armed Forces.
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What the citation doesn't say is that he was singled out for extra attention and pressure (i.e. torture) because his father was an Admiral and at the time Commander-in-Chief, U.S. Naval Forces, Europe and was subsequently promoted to Commander-in-Chief, Pacific Command (CINCPAC) the next year. His shootdown and subsequent capture were well publicized internationally and since McCain was a noteworthy prisoner at the time the extra attention translated into particularly harsh torture for him and resulted in permanent disabilities.

Whatever one thinks of him politically he and his fellow Vietnam War POW's endured far more than the vast majority of his fellow veterans and continued to serve his country for decades afterwards.

P.S. What @FormerRecruitingGuru and @sevenhelmet already said.
 
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number9

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FinkUFreaky

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Congrats to Jonny Kim. Had the pleasure of flying with him as an ASCAN (astronaut candidate). I’ve heard from recent ASCANs several months ago that he’s not only gone through flight school; but before that became a flight surgeon for NASA, in case that hasn’t been brought up. So seal, Harvard grad doctor, astronaut, flight doc, pilot. Not bad, and don’t feel like he should have stayed an enlisted seal, nor would that have been to the navy’s or country’s benefit.
 
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exNavyOffRec

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Flash said:
For his actions while being a POW, not just being a POW. There is a difference, and his actions while a POW were well deserving of a Silver Star.



While his Silver Star is almost certainly undeserved it has never been rescinded or revoked (whatever the official terminology is) and thus remains a recipient.
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There are many who have been awarded decorations of many levels they didn't warrant, there are also probably just as many or more whose actions did warrant recognition but it was never given.
 
HuggyU2

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I'm surprised I hadn't seen anything posted about this. Maybe I just missed it.
The guy is something. When he decides to go in the speaking circuit, he will become wealthy.

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NASA astronaut earns "Wings of Gold"

230324-N-LW682-002 - Lt. Cmdr. Jonny Kim poses for a photo alongside fellow astronauts after receiving his "Wings of Gold" following the completion of advanced naval helicopter training.
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Anthony2000

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HuggyU2 said:
I'm surprised I hadn't seen anything posted about this. Maybe I just missed it.
The guy is something. When he decides to go in the speaking circuit, he will become wealthy.

www.dvidshub.net

NASA astronaut earns "Wings of Gold"

230324-N-LW682-002 - Lt. Cmdr. Jonny Kim poses for a photo alongside fellow astronauts after receiving his "Wings of Gold" following the completion of advanced naval helicopter training.
www.dvidshub.net www.dvidshub.net
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I’m curious to see if will end up in an actual squadron or just went through flight school… I know astronauts have their own flight school, but never seen one go through the actual pipeline.
 
Griz882

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HuggyU2 said:
I'm surprised I hadn't seen anything posted about this. Maybe I just missed it.
The guy is something. When he decides to go in the speaking circuit, he will become wealthy.

www.dvidshub.net

NASA astronaut earns "Wings of Gold"

230324-N-LW682-002 - Lt. Cmdr. Jonny Kim poses for a photo alongside fellow astronauts after receiving his "Wings of Gold" following the completion of advanced naval helicopter training.
www.dvidshub.net www.dvidshub.net
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Wait…he didn’t get jets?

Fuck you 42%!
 
BB Poison

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Anthony2000 said:
I’m curious to see if will end up in an actual squadron or just went through flight school… I know astronauts have their own flight school, but never seen one go through the actual pipeline.
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I don’t think he’s going to a squadron. I suspect he’ll be pilot for Artemis 3.
 
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