MasterBates
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Nose it over at high airspeed. I have seen 6000+ FPM in a dive out of 10K.
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Landing Helos
- Thread starter SemperApollo
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Thanks for the explanation. That's pretty sick. But how did you know? Our VSIs only go +-3000. Are the Bravos different there, too?
MasterBates
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Ours go to 6K
Remember, and Auto is not neccisarily the fastest way to lose altitude with power on. It is the slowest way to fall when you don't have power (engine failure) or can't use the power without consequences (tail drive failure, or Vortex Ring State).
Remember, and Auto is not neccisarily the fastest way to lose altitude with power on. It is the slowest way to fall when you don't have power (engine failure) or can't use the power without consequences (tail drive failure, or Vortex Ring State).
MasterBates
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Remember, we are all pitot-static instruments and analog AIs & BDHIs. No glass cockpit in the 60B.
If its pictching in heavy seas I'm under the impression that the RAST is used to help. Granted I've only landed 16 times or so on a ship, so I could be talking out of my a$$.
MasterBates
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RA, or a varsity free deck.
If you have RAST, that is.
Gators don't roll as much as small-boys, I'll concede, but two things to keep in mind. Use the horizon--don't try to follow the movement of the ship. You'll always lag it, and get smacked when you get out of phase. Also, don't jack around at 2-3' off the deck. Once you decide to land, land.
MasterBates
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Problem with small boys, is that you are in so tight to the superstructure, that you often have no horizon.
HARS bar is OK, when it works, but it lags a tad as well.
HARS bar is OK, when it works, but it lags a tad as well.
We're not supposed to slam into the deck? Honestly, that's the answer to your question. For a FFG, the roll limit is 15 degrees. I've only been flying once when that was exceeded (nasty SAR situation) and even then, it wasn't consistent. The HAC (I was a 2P at the time) determined it was safer to make a free deck landing rather than screw around w/ dudes on the deck and a cable that might not work. He had the skill to pull it off. We hit the deck firmly (but not exceeding any limit) and wouldn't you know, he was dead center in the trap. I'm pretty sure I've told the story here before, but just saying it again to help answer your question.
Aerodynamics, my friend. Heavier=falling slower, not faster.
SemperApollo
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And I'm guessing if the ship was rolling that much, the wind wasn't being much more cooperative. That is amazing.
As for the cable, are they trying to winch you in, or is it just to give the pilot something to "feel" (like a physical ILS) in the last stages of landing?
As for the cable, are they trying to winch you in, or is it just to give the pilot something to "feel" (like a physical ILS) in the last stages of landing?
MasterBates
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They winch you down with 4000# on a constant tension winch.
MasterBates
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Unless, like wrinkle-san, you pull full collective, backstick, and SNAP the cable. I was LSOiing. It was SCARY.
As PJ O'Rourke once said of RAST, a helicopter is "reeled in like an enormous air bass."