I'm calling you out. That is a Star Wars referance and you are just trying to make me look ignorant of the franchise. I don't look so dumb now, do I?
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Leaving Vietnam vs AFG
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I actually wasn't trying to make a Star Wars reference but I like the way your mind works!
+1
And ISIS-K.
You made a declarative statement that was just plain wrong, then get your knickers in a twist when it is pointed out? Start a briefing like that to folks who know better and you will immediately torpedo your credibility.
Pointing out that you were wrong wasn't the main point of my post though, it was to show that the lessons we learned that led to the introduction of the MRAP in US service are not new by any stretch, they're at least 50 years old by now to anyone who studies recent counter-insurgency operations from Rhodesia, Namibia and southern Lebanon (where more modern IED's were first commonly used in the Middle East against Israel by Hezbollah) which all happened well before 2001. We could also likely glean a few other military and policital lessons from those conflicts as well.
So the value to a foreign military power in exploiting the MRAPs in Afghanistan are going to be pretty minimal, the same is true of most of the equipment that has been captured by the Taliban, which is certainly a bounty to them in some cases it isn't any great technological loss to us. Most of the contemporary armored vehicle designs from the last 20 years incorporate many of the lessons of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan into their designs to include that our adversaries, like Russia and their Typhoon AFV's:
BTR/VPK-7829 - K-16/17 Bumerang:
And numerous 'original' Chinese designs:
This could get almost as complicated as the Syrian war.
Or Libya.
These guys…https://m.economictimes.com/news/de...dout-panjshir-valley/articleshow/85542259.cms
I’ll say it again. This war is not over, just our part in it for now.
Yeah man, Libya is super complicated (no sarcasm). You’ve got Russia and France allied on one side, Turkey on the other, the son of Gaddafi looking like he’ll run for president, and the US steering pretty clear of the whole place (for now).
Those guys used to be a bunch of ragtag jihadists known as the IMU, and how they went from 1998 to become ISIS-K in Afghanistan could be a Tolkein saga.
No doubt. And as discussed it’s not cutting edge stuff or in some cases terribly useful for them. Still a ton of weapons and equipment they can use.
So the Taliban won't be inclined to cozy to China because of its treatment of Uighurs. And who would do business with them as if this is 2002? I think we will find they have business partners, including possibly technical support of abandoned military equipment. Time will tell.
www.aa.com.tr
China will be our main partner, say Taliban
Beijing ready to invest in Afghanistan, help rebuild country, says Taliban spokesman - Anadolu Ajansı
www.aa.com.tr
Shack. Just remember, the ANSDF and Afghan civilians were Muslim too, just like the Uighurs are. And look what the Taliban did to them.So the Taliban won't be inclined to cozy to China because of its treatment of Uighurs. And who would do business with them as if this is 2002? I think we will find they have business partners, including possibly technical support of abandoned military equipment. Time will tell.
China will be our main partner, say Taliban
Beijing ready to invest in Afghanistan, help rebuild country, says Taliban spokesman - Anadolu Ajansı
Cash is king, and the Taliban wants to sell what China is buying.
So was this also part of the plan?
Hasn't stopped the Pakistanis. There was a rather interesting interview I saw recently with PM Imran Khan, where Jonathan Swan brought up the Uighur issue vis-a-vis Pakistan's relationship w/ China and there was a lot of awkward hand waiving and equivocating out of Khan.
I think it was rhetorical sarcasm from wink. (Was it?)
The Taliban super don’t care about the fate of the Uighurs. Heck, the Taliban don’t even care about the Afghans.
The Taliban super don’t care about the fate of the Uighurs. Heck, the Taliban don’t even care about the Afghans.