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Looking for gouge? Ask your Stupid Questions about Naval Aviation here (Part 1)
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Because you can't bolter. Back in the old days, they had over 10 arresting wires, and the LSO gave you a "cut" signal in close, so you literally came down idle in the wires. If you boltered, you were crashing into the planes up front.
With the angled deck, if you bolter, you head up the port side of the boat away from the rest of the parked aircraft.
In theory, you can take off and land at the same time ... plus you have the added safety measure of pointing the landing area elsewhere besides into the pack, as you pointed out.
In practice and in cyclic ops, it really means you can launch faster with 4 cats banging away simultaneously that with just two in a straight deck arrangement.
Once had an A-6 lose a wheel on touchdown. The remaining right main-mount stub caught a wire, careening the A-6 from the angle to the right and into the "pack" toward the bow. Heavy casualties of men and machines resulted.
With the move in the Essex Class to the angled deck, they also moved the elevators from the center of the flight deck to the outside of the flight deck, another major contribution.....especially if you are manning your "go" bird on the hangar deck ("hey, but they promised us they'd get us upstairs in time to launch!").
True, true ... but most elevator arrangements were severely f'ed up until the advent of Kitty Hawk and Connie ... i.e., they were poorly placed on -27C's and the early big decks, i.e., Forrestal, Independence, Saratoga, and Ranger even to the point of seldom being used -- the one at the forward end of the landing area comes to mind .... don't know about Coral Sea, Midway, and FDR's elevators.
Actually, it's more of a chicken or the egg question ... i.e., we -- LSO's --- "CUT" recips when waving them as well -- it obviously had nothing to do with an angle or a straight deck at that time -- it's just the way props (recips) land on the BOAT.
They don't fly AOA and up on the power all the way to touchdown ... like jets .... they come aboard @ idle, but have a recip's INSTANT power availability in the event of a bolter and/or AR wave-off (which shouldn't happen, but does) ...
During workups in early 90's, El 4 on Sara (the one at the end of the landing area) drooped about 2 inches. An A-6 on a Bolter dragged his hook across the elevator. Going down 2 inches was no big deal, but when he hit the 2 inch step up, he shattered his hook point. Fortunately, we had gas in the air to get him back to the beach - otherwise barricade time.
We didn't fly for a few days while they brought out the guys from Otis Elevators (Okay, maybe it was just from the shipyard) to fix it.
Tactical387
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Anybody want to volunteer their call signs? My oso flys c-130s and his is "sloppy". always thought that was funny.
no. haze yourself
Or do a search for "Callsigns" and find the thread where this was asked.
Tactical387
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haha ok thanks sir.
Anybody want to volunteer their call signs? My oso flys c-130s and his is "sloppy". always thought that was funny.
Anyone else think that Tactical was having an online conversation with himself or was it just me?
Son of a Grunt
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What is barricading?
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