March 2017 IWC OCS Board Thread

[chaotic_quixotic]

Recruiters go off the Nationality Guidelines. I know of one country, Korea for example, where the parents are both born there and the applicant is born here in the US. In the guidelines, the applicant is considered a dual citizen, even though they were both in the US.

I see, thanks for that bit. My recruiter doesn't know much about it so couldn't provide me with a proper explanation.

 

[RJG-1]

Bit of a really odd situation for me, but did anyone else experience an issue with JPAS and their application not going to board because of an investigation? My OR informed me that he had heard my package wasn't put up for consideration again--I missed the December board due to JPAS kicking back my application on a small discrepancy--only this time he was told it was because of a technical issue and my investigation hadn't been completed, and as such the package wasn't submitted for consideration. My application has been complete since October of 2016, so I'm really at a loss as to what sort of questions to be asking.

 

[FormerRecruitingGuru]

Bit of a really odd situation for me, but did anyone else experience an issue with JPAS and their application not going to board because of an investigation? My OR informed me that he had heard my package wasn't put up for consideration again--I missed the December board due to JPAS kicking back my application on a small discrepancy--only this time he was told it was because of a technical issue and my investigation hadn't been completed, and as such the package wasn't submitted for consideration. My application has been complete since October of 2016, so I'm really at a loss as to what sort of questions to be asking.

JPAS isn't required in order to submit.

 

[exNavyOffRec]

Bit of a really odd situation for me, but did anyone else experience an issue with JPAS and their application not going to board because of an investigation? My OR informed me that he had heard my package wasn't put up for consideration again--I missed the December board due to JPAS kicking back my application on a small discrepancy--only this time he was told it was because of a technical issue and my investigation hadn't been completed, and as such the package wasn't submitted for consideration. My application has been complete since October of 2016, so I'm really at a loss as to what sort of questions to be asking.

Given what I remember and what RUFIO said it makes me wonder what else is going on, maybe your OR doesn't feel you would have a good shot so submitted other applicants with better chances.

 

[RJG-1]

JPAS isn't required in order to submit.

Given what I remember and what RUFIO said it makes me wonder what else is going on, maybe your OR doesn't feel you would have a good shot so submitted other applicants with better chances.

I've discussed this with my OR, but he's attributed both misses to JPAS issues, saying it's beyond his control and OPM needs time to work it out. If JPAS is really a non-issue for submission, then I would've appreciated an honest opinion about my application's chance for review, rather than the JPAS answer I've been getting. We spoke yesterday after my initial post, and he mentioned I'm now good to go for June, so I don't know what cleared up between last month and now.

Either way, I appreciate and thank you for your responses. I'm trying to follow up with my OR and other personnel right now to build a clearer picture.

 

[exNavyOffRec]

I've discussed this with my OR, but he's attributed both misses to JPAS issues, saying it's beyond his control and OPM needs time to work it out. If JPAS is really a non-issue for submission, then I would've appreciated an honest opinion about my application's chance for review, rather than the JPAS answer I've been getting. We spoke yesterday after my initial post, and he mentioned I'm now good to go for June, so I don't know what cleared up between last month and now.

Either way, I appreciate and thank you for your responses. I'm trying to follow up with my OR and other personnel right now to build a clearer picture.

What is your GPA and degree?

 

[ISDAniel]

I have a question regarding the waiting period in between the first approval for the board and then getting the second one. I was selected for this board for Intel O and I've been waiting for about a month now. I know in the other forums they say it can take a couple of months for the entire process but my admin officer keeps telling me I need to call and check on it even though it specifically says on BOL not to do that. Is there someone I can contact to do that? should I just continue to wait? I think my Intel O tried the OTC admin email listed on NRC but he didn't get a response.

 

[FormerRecruitingGuru]

I have a question regarding the waiting period in between the first approval for the board and then getting the second one. I was selected for this board for Intel O and I've been waiting for about a month now. I know in the other forums they say it can take a couple of months for the entire process but my admin officer keeps telling me I need to call and check on it even though it specifically says on BOL not to do that. Is there someone I can contact to do that? should I just continue to wait? I think my Intel O tried the OTC admin email listed on NRC but he didn't get a response.

OTC Newport doesn't handle your orders. NRC does.

 

[Romantics89]

Holy smokes! (By the way, hello, everyone. This is Gentry here.) What a nice surprise to come back to after commissioning and completing OCS last Friday. All I have to say, Gogakuhei, is I wish you the best of luck in your future endeavors, which likely won't include the Navy. Responses to rejection, failure, etc. like this will not go well at OCS, or anything Navy-related. I sincerely hope your motivation and time translate into something much more useful than ranting like this on Air Warriors.


To everyone else, after just graduating and finishing in the top 10% of my class, I'm more than happy to answer any questions you might have. OCS is incredibly challenging but rewarding.

Message to all:

The Navy's board process for intelligence officer is completely fixed. If you are not a current or former sailor, or child of privilege, you need not even consider applying. You would be more likely to win the Powerball.The intelligence board is all about who you know, not how capable or qualified you might be. In short, intelligence officer appointments are little more than sinecures for children who hail from politically-connected, privileged families.

Some of my stats:

--DLI honor graduate in Japanese, according to the State Department, the MOST CHALLENGING language that the American government teaches its language professionals.
*Before anyone begins baselessly saying such inane things as "Japanese isn't important," please reference the strategic language lists for the CIA, State Department and DOD! Just because few enlisted chaps are trained in the language (most are suited government agents or FAO/intel officers of the four branches), it doesn't mean it isn't a strategic language or "important." I was hired by Blackwater for 115K per year to work on a sensitive contract for MDA right out of DLI. I was also offered a job at the Defense Intelligence Agency that I declined last year, given that my ambition was to become a naval officer.

--Japanese DLPT V: 2+/3 Yes, I actually have official certification proving my proficiency; I didn't simply claim to have mastered/"picked up" Arabic in a year whilst vacationing on mommy and daddy's money in Madrid, Spain! (Check out Jill Gentry's insufferably entitled and absurd comments from the December 2016 IWC Board. She was selected, by the way, with a 3.6 in political science out of a state college w/ no prior service or special skills to speak of. . . No, Spanish is not what intel needs, you silver-spooned twit. LOL It is a peasant's language that anyone with half a brain cell can learn, especially at the ridiculously basic collegiate level (College language programs are pathetic, and I speak from experience, having studied at both Middlebury College and a highly respected Jesuit college in Japan (Most of my classmates hailed from Princeton, Georgetown, Middlebury, Carnegie Mellon, and Columbia. I was, far and a way, the best student in attendance at both programs. Thank you, DLI!). It is a Cat. I language at the DLI; it is also, incidentally, the language that is occasionally offered to the DLI's FAILURES when they can't hack their assigned Cat. IV language programs! Cat. IV and Cat. III languages are what intel wants! Sh$%! DLI students often make fun of Spanish students for the aforementioned reasons.) If you are not a Green Beret fighting drug lords in S. America, a border patrol agent, social worker, or aspiring drug smuggler, it is practically worthless.

--AA degree in Japanese from the Defense Language Institute

--BA degree in international business, political science and international studies from a REAL and respected liberal arts college, magna cum laude (GPA: 3.8). Thank you, GI Bill!

--DINFOS-trained print journalist and public affairs specialist

--Former Marine and USANG sergeant (I did my time, I am a proven asset, and I served with distinction.)

--ACTIVE TS/SCI clearance

--OAR: 51 (I asked my OR if I should retake it in order to attain a higher score, and I was flatly told that there was absolutely no necessity to do so.)

Since starting this process, I have observed so many people get selected for Navy intel officer slots with online degrees--yes, online "degrees"--and nothing especially noteworthy or remarkable about their applications, save for their landed gentry backgrounds, that it has completely shattered my faith in the system. At least as it concerns the Navy's intel slots, the game is completely rigged, rigged, rigged. The selections are not remotely based upon merit; they are political and class/influence-based, period. Sheesh, a friggin' Marine Corps Reserve supply Marine (Yes, supply!) was selected on the December board. You cannot make this stuff up! Folks, it is true: People of Jill Gentry's ilk are what Naval Intelligence wants. It is completely who you know. Welcome to oligarchy/plutocracy, folks. Damn all who defend a patently un-American and feudalistic system such as this! U.S. Navy, you wasted a year of my sincere time and energy! More than that, you diminished my respect for your branch of service. I am now glad that I will not be serving in the Navy. How insufferable it would have had been working side by side a bunch of entitled blue-bloods who were handed their appointments based solely upon who they knew/what their lineage was. I pity the enlisted who will be cursed with the misfortune of serving under your authority. It is not difficult to conceive of how Jill Gentry-like people will treat their lowly enlisted subordinates. What a pity! Three cheers for feudalism! NRD, you should be ashamed of yourselves for misleading so many sincere and patriotic American intel candidates.

To those worthy two to three genuine American aspirants who happen to win the Powerball on these boards (in other words, those who are not politically extended their appointments by virtue of connections), I heartily congratulate you. Upon earning your commissions and acquiring sufficient rank, I entreat you to fix this broken system for posterity!


ORs: Do not waste peoples' lives and build up their hopes to simply fulfill your quotas! Such behavior is at once unethical and wrong and does no credit to our naval service.

Cheers!

 

[Anuj Kainth]

Holy smokes! (By the way, hello, everyone. This is Gentry here.) What a nice surprise to come back to after commissioning and completing OCS last Friday. All I have to say, Gogakuhei, is I wish you the best of luck in your future endeavors, which likely won't include the Navy. Responses to rejection, failure, etc. like this will not go well at OCS, or anything Navy-related. I sincerely hope your motivation and time translate into something much more useful than ranting like this on Air Warriors.


To everyone else, after just graduating and finishing in the top 10% of my class, I'm more than happy to answer any questions you might have. OCS is incredibly challenging but rewarding.

I'm up for the June board and starting to get anxious. What were your stats like heading into the board? Was this your first attempt? I believe I'm at a bit of a disadvantage since I'm coming from the Army. Also, sucks that I can't turn in my master's transcript showing I graduated on the 4th, Board deadline was last month.

 

[Romantics89]

I'm up for the June board and starting to get anxious. What were your stats like heading into the board? Was this your first attempt? I believe I'm at a bit of a disadvantage since I'm coming from the Army. Also, sucks that I can't turn in my master's transcript showing I graduated on the 4th, Board deadline was last month.

Hi! What designator? Intel?

 

[Anuj Kainth]

Hi! What designator? Intel?

I'm going for IP or IW not too sure what the designators are as its a bit confusing.

Active Duty Medic (US Army) Excellent evals and above average PRT scores
OAR: 53
GPA: Undergraduate 3.73/ Graduate 3.8
Age: 31
College: Trident University International
Degree: BS Computer Science concentration in Network Administration / MS Information Technology Management Concentration in Information Assurance/Security and Digital Forensics
Technical Certifications: CompTIA Security+
Applying for: IP, IW