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Marine VS. Navy Flight Time

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Semper_Fi

Semper_Fi

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Howdy All,
I'm a new member with a few questions to both the navy and marine pilots or those who know them. Which pilots, navy or marines, tend to get more flight hours in their planes. Also, which service tends to have more lifers or ones that stay in more than 6 or 8 years (Pilots that love their job)? Last question, why is the USMC in need of pilots more than the Navy (that is what I have heard)?

Thanks for your help.
 
skidkid

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As for hours there are way too many variables to even begin to give a definitive answer. Flight time will vary from platform to platform, squadron to squadron and pilot to pilot. For the most part whatever you fly in whatever service you will get enough flight time to keep it interesting and maintain proficiency.

I think the same holds true for "lifers"

As for needing more pilots both services did a piss poor job at personnel planning the Navy took too many adn the Marines not enough. Dont worry it will be in reverse in a few years.

Good luck and there should be enough info here to answer most questions.
 
Steve Wilkins

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skidkid said:
Dont worry it will be in reverse in a few years.
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So true, so true.

Concur w/ above comments. Way, way too many variables involved that prohibit an answer you were looking for.
 
thull

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"As for needing more pilots both services did a piss poor job at personnel planning the Navy took too many adn the Marines not enough."

adn??? what's adn?

Troy
 
thull

thull

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got it...I'm new and figured i wasn't in the know on this particular acronym!!! :confused: aviator default NfOs? probably not.
 
Frumby

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I can't speak for the helo pipeline but I can tell you that jet guys are deficient in both services. We are seeing MANY NFO to pilot transitions. We've lowered the standards for jet grades. We have some SNA's who would have never had the opportunity to fly jets 5 years ago with their primary grades. What does that mean.....recruitment and pilot production is low.
Jet guys generally stay in for 10 years or more. One because they love it but also because they are in 8 year contracts after wings. Navy 2 years training + 8 year contract=10 years or more. Marines:3-4 years training (Marines go to TBS)+ 8 year contracts=11-12 years. I saw that you were an Aggie so I'm trying to make this as simple as possible for you to understand.
Semper Fly
 
zippy

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Frumby said:
I We've lowered the standards for jet grades. We have some SNA's who would have never had the opportunity to fly jets 5 years ago with their primary grades.
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Out of curiosity, what are the new standards for jet grades? Didn't it use to be 50 Navy and 52 Marines?
 
pdx

pdx

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Frumby said:
I can't speak for the helo pipeline but I can tell you that jet guys are deficient in both services. We are seeing MANY NFO to pilot transitions. We've lowered the standards for jet grades. We have some SNA's who would have never had the opportunity to fly jets 5 years ago with their primary grades. What does that mean.....recruitment and pilot production is low.
Jet guys generally stay in for 10 years or more. One because they love it but also because they are in 8 year contracts after wings. Navy 2 years training + 8 year contract=10 years or more. Marines:3-4 years training (Marines go to TBS)+ 8 year contracts=11-12 years. I saw that you were an Aggie so I'm trying to make this as simple as possible for you to understand.
Semper Fly
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I selected just a few months ago, and this was only the case for Marines. In the Navy, jets are harder to get than ever because there are so few seats given out. 50 is the min, but nobody within 6 months of me selected jets with a score that low. I got a 54 and missed the cut. For the Marines, 52 is the min, and that did get jets for many pilots. Several Marines in the 52-54 range got jets even though they listed helos and C-130 first.

Also, every pilot has an 8 year committment after winging, not just jet guys.
 
RichardDelk

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I'll have to look at my contract, but I'm pretty sure it was 8 years "after designation as a Naval Flight Officer." Maybe I got suckered into an extra two years? :icon_tong
 
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