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MAV vs UAV

@Raptor10: sorry I forgot the answer to #3. Real time targeting info if you don't have JSTARS up on the net.
 
Brett, I know you your stuff... but I know mine. I've done a tour over there working with UAVs and I like them. JSTARS was always off link or couldn't provide the exact targeting info we needed. It's almost useless in an urban environment. Like a car model, or who in a group? UAV can do it, and has, Just my opinion.
 
Skeet said:
Brett, I know you your stuff... but I know mine. I've done a tour over there working with UAVs and I like them. JSTARS was always off link or couldn't provide the exact targeting info we needed. It's almost useless in an urban environment. Like a car model, or who in a group? UAV can do it, and has, Just my opinion.
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I don't think we disagree. UAVs provide invaluable TST information that is well worth the inconvenience they subject some of us to...and JSTARS is rarely a factor. ;)

Brett
 
Skeet said:
.... I know you your stuff... but I know mine. I've done a tour over there working with UAVs and I like them. JSTARS was always off link or couldn't provide the exact targeting info we needed. It's almost useless in an urban environment. Like a car model, or who in a group? UAV can do it, and has, Just my opinion.
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Maybe I'm just old. Call me crazy, too. I suppose this is all UNCLASS and pretty much entry-level info (?) , but I just learned more about JSTARS capabilities than I knew before ... or needed to know ....

I.e., I wonder if the same holds true for Mohammed???

Maybe a little JSTAR/UAV.... .... is in order .... ??? :)
 
Brett327 said:
I think you're missing a verb in there somewhere. ;) Don't hate what you don't understand. Even Martians names Jimmy need love. :D

Brett
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Brett, You've got me all wrong. I was going to say I loved the avatar. I may not agree with his opinions, the guy is dsmart.
 
I saw an article today that Lockheed is trying to pitch a pilotless F-35.

In my opinion, that would just be a poor man's UCAV. You've already designed the plane to revolve around a pilot (including his g limits), with added weights and less optimized aerodynamics. Take out the pilot, you'd most likely get the same performance. What would they place in the cockpit, take out the glass and put some gas there? Would a stealthy UCAV even need to be designed for 7.5-9g's (speculating on the actual value)?

I would think a UCAV designed from the ground up would have a lot better performance.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/08/15/AR2006081501288.html
 
STLEngineer said:
I saw an article today that Lockheed is trying to pitch a pilotless F-35.

In my opinion, that would just be a poor man's UCAV. You've already designed the plane to revolve around a pilot (including his g limits), with added weights and less optimized aerodynamics. Take out the pilot, you'd most likely get the same performance. What would they place in the cockpit, take out the glass and put some gas there? Would a stealthy UCAV even need to be designed for 7.5-9g's (speculating on the actual value)?

I would think a UCAV designed from the ground up would have a lot better performance.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/08/15/AR2006081501288.html
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Seems as though the benefits of having a high G platform would only really be realized in a WVR BFM scenario - something that a UCAV would be highly unlikely to engage in.

Brett
 
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