Your situation is interesting. I won't say that they will fly oversees because they tend to have people all over the place but I would say that if you have a foreign passport, DESTROY IT!!! in the presence of an officer/Officer ranked OR and obtain a signed letter stating that you have done so and submit it with your package/security paperwork. Also seek to relinquish your foreign citizenship if you have duel citizenship. YOUR SECURITY CLEARANCE WILL BE DECLINED AKA "loss of jurisdiction" IF YOU WILL HAVE AN OPERATIONAL FOREIGN PASSPORT. Your OR may tell you to do so only after you are selected but sometimes the security investigation starts before the board commences.
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May-ish 2015 Pilot/NFO Rolling Board
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exNavyOffRec
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I believe when a person is naturalized they renounce citizenship from previous country and have to turn in all foreign issued documents (passport).
If that was not the case DO NOT DESTROY THE PASSPORT!! that could prolong the process even of an OR, very bad gouge!!!!! each country has different rules for renouncing citizenship, some it is as simple as sending a certified letter, one applicant we had was interesting, they had to hand deliver a letter and passport to that countries embassy, yet another had to send a letter and the passport and then the country said once the cancelled passport was returned to the individual they were renounced.
In the case of the passport and letter an applicant at our NRD did not send the passport, they rec'd a letter saying "you still have an active passport, you must return it"
each country is different and there is a thick book that says what needs to be done.
interesting facts, some countries will label you a traitor if you renounce citizenship, some will always consider you a citizen of their country.
So does anyone know the official selection #'s for this board? I'm just curious.
speedroller
Rangers
You have a choice of either do dual citizenship or just U.S. I renounced my Latvian citizenship. And don't worry I haven't destroyed any of my old passports.
I was born in South Africa and all I had to do was send my passport along with my SA drivers license and some form to the SA embassy. They issued me a letter stating that I've renounced my citizenship. I had to complete a SF-86 for my enlistment and had an interview with some agent, so hopefully that will make the process go by quicker.
luvmychevy1951
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Just thought I'd check in and let everyone know I have been selected SNA!
Yeah Im curious too! Although this thread appears to be dead, maybe @RUFiO181 knows.
So I was just sifting through here once again and noticed your post. I lived in between Riga and Latgalea for almost 3 years, my wife is from Balvi and our son was born in Riga. Prieks iepazites
I was stationed at the Embassy in Riga.. good times.Anyways, in regards to security clearances, when I held my TS/SCI your investigator will most likely contact your closest relatives and maybe a few friends. If your parents or siblings live in the U.S. he MAY travel depending on how far it is from his office. I have never heard of OPM or a contractor flying overseas to meet with anyone, much less if they are not immediate family. I wouldn't sweat it, if you've never held a clearance before you might get scrutinized but just make sure your 86 lines up with every other piece of paperwork and you'll be good.
speedroller
Rangers
So I was just sifting through here once again and noticed your post. I lived in between Riga and Latgalea for almost 3 years, my wife is from Balvi and our son was born in Riga. Prieks iepazites
Anyways, in regards to security clearances, when I held my TS/SCI your investigator will most likely contact your closest relatives and maybe a few friends. If your parents or siblings live in the U.S. he MAY travel depending on how far it is from his office. I have never heard of OPM or a contractor flying overseas to meet with anyone, much less if they are not immediate family. I wouldn't sweat it, if you've never held a clearance before you might get scrutinized but just make sure your 86 lines up with every other piece of paperwork and you'll be good.
Hi, that's exciting to hear, I would of never thougt that I'd run into someone, pursuing the same career field, from back "home".
Anyhow, yes, I have all of my records saved. Fortunatley, my immediate family lives here in U.S.
"Destroy" in my first statement meant go through the official process to render the passport unusable then provide proof to appropriate Navy recruiting authority. I was told to wait until the end before I get rid of my passport but then my clearance was denied for that very reason. I guess the process varies from person to person.
Was your passport expired when you were denied a clearance? I had a passport from an EU country but it expired back in 2014. I haven't renounced my citizenship yet, I too was told by my recruiter to wait until I am accepted. I hope I don't get denied a SC :S
exNavyOffRec
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It shouldn't, it is a set process, once a person pro Y, then the process to renounce is to started, and it is per the manual which says how you do it for each country, then the background is started.
When a person is a US citizen starting a background before the board doesn't matter, even though they shouldn't, but when a person is a dual citizen it screws things up.
I hate to sound repetitive but I may not understand your statement. Does that mean the background check doesn't start until your application has been reviewed by the board?
USSMaximus
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Although some people are having their background checks done before the board, background checks are usually after the board convenes. The Pro-Rec Y is the first vote. The second vote is after the background check and medical are completed.
exNavyOffRec
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yep, well said, the reason they are supposed to be after is why spend money on those that aren't pro Y and it doesn't take that long.