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HeyJoe

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Oceana and the jet noise crusade

ChunksJR said:
I live 1.3 Mi off the Approach of 14 and love the jet noise...despite being a helo bubba ;)

~D

I'm under approach end of 32 which isn't used that much, but when it is, my wife always wants me to call the base and complain (of course I'm loving every minute of it). One former base CO said when they checked caller ID of complaints, one of frequent numbers was from a Tomcat XO. Upon asking him about it and correlating the time of calls, turns out it was the spousal unit. Calls stopped after that.

Shameful part of Citizens Concerned About Jet Noise (CCAJN) is that founder is a retired Navy Captain (non aviator of course) who just never let up....asked for Environmental Impact Studies...one thing after another under banner of seeking meaningful solutions (theirs)...then BRAC basically says OK, get rid of housing around the base (nonstarter and poison pill to give jets to Florida, then they balk, so now what?). Our friendly retiree says he never meant to close the base....say what? Check out their website.....http://http://www.jetnoise.org/01_WhoWeAre/A_whoweare.html

Note under founder's bio that he retired in 97 and founded CCAJN in 98 and seems he made it his new passion holding chair until 03. The home values they seek to perserve will be in major hurt locker if the base closes but htey say base could be used for something else...right! (in a BRAC environment...move the jets and it's curtains)

Funny thing that Naval Academy has a retiree attacking them relentlessly as a totalitarian institution:http://http://www.newtotalitarians.com/Essays.html

Another retiree has made the V-22 his obsession as coordinator of the V-22 "Red" Ribbon panel (as opposed to the government "Blue" Ribbon panel). I looked and couldn't find anyone else but him shouting about the V-22 and calling the PM a liar: http://http://www.combatreform.com/coldunnexposesgyrenelies.htm

Common thread here? Fairly senior retirees get obssessed after leaving the service and start howling at military that pays their retirement...not they aren't entitled to free speech, but these guys seem really over the top and don't seem to be satisfied regardless of what government says in response to their "crusades". Maybe it's the attention or empowerment of making government respond....someone with a psych degree ought look at that possibility. Seems like Briar Rabbit and the Tar Baby from the government view.
 

ChunksJR

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heyjoe said:
Shameful part of Citizens Concerned About Jet Noise (CCAJN) is that founder is a retired Navy Captain (non aviator of course) who just never let up....asked for Environmental Impact Studies...one thing after another under banner of seeking meaningful solutions (theirs)...then BRAC basically says OK, get rid of housing around the base (nonstarter and poison pill to give jets to Florida, then they balk, so now what?). Our friendly retiree says he never meant to close the base....say what? Check out their website.....http://http://www.jetnoise.org/01_WhoWeAre/A_whoweare.html

They go to quite some means to get this in the public view...most of VA Beach is against them (quote the "5K supporters" to the total population of 425,257 (2000 census) or approx. 1.1% of the population that's actualy cares enough to join this committee...)

So I saw that 2 of their board members decided to take it to the VA Beach School Board Budget meeting...

http://www.vbschools.com/minutes/NOV1798.html

And about the current chairwoman...would being a current real estate agent represent a conflict-of-interest? Just a thought:

http://www.kimberlyjohnson.com/

Ok, gots to fly tomorrow...looking for a I-264 transition to piss some people off with ROTOR NOISE BABY!

~D
 

HeyJoe

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ChunksJR said:
And about the current chairwoman...would being a current real estate agent represent a conflict-of-interest? Just a thought:

http://www.kimberlyjohnson.com/


~D

Wait a minute...she was on TV after BRAC decision and no way she looked that good.. wonder when that picture was taken. maybe it was stress of jet noise or the web picture is a "Glamour Shot"
 

HeyJoe

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ChunksJR said:
And about the current chairwoman...would being a current real estate agent represent a conflict-of-interest? Just a thought:

http://www.kimberlyjohnson.com/

Ok, gots to fly tomorrow...looking for a I-264 transition to piss some people off with ROTOR NOISE BABY!

~D

Hey, I've got a suggestion. Her website lists an address. If you can get Mr Shick's as well, it can't be too far off I-264. Maybe they'd prefer and like a taste of rotor noise. Even better yet, any 53 Echoes still over at Norfolk? A MH-53E can really jar your teeth. Yeah, that's the ticket!
 

Chubby

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JetNoise.jpg

As irratating as it may be sometimes ... let's not kick a gift horse in the mouth.
 

ChunksJR

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heyjoe said:
Wait a minute...she was on TV after BRAC decision and no way she looked that good.. wonder when that picture was taken. maybe it was stress of jet noise or the web picture is a "Glamour Shot"

"Because now, for a limited time only, Glamour Shots by Deb are 75% off..."

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HeyJoe

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THe Sound of Freedom

Chubby said:
JetNoise.jpg

As irratating as it may be sometimes ... let's not kick a gift horse in the mouth.
I have to confess that I had a stock of similar bumper stickers (with F/A-18) and when a friend of my spousal unit would visit, I would paste it on her bumper. She lived near the den of the CCAJN leadership. She never figured it out until neighbors asked why she was sporting it, but still couldn't figure out where they came from. Sweet!

She did bring up the late night FCLPs to me and I told her "Do you think we want to be out there at 0200-0300 just to irritate you?" The base has been there since early days of WWII with virtually no housing around it. Folks crowd the base and then start complaining that jets make noise. What were they thinking. Go figure.
 
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