Naval Academy - Divorced

[phrogpilot73]

...don't underestimate the power of the big brass ring outside the Navy. USNA's reputation may or may not be well-earned, but I'm startled how many doors being from there has opened.

Wait, were'nt you the one that before you left active duty - thought I was essentially full of shit when I said what it was like outside the military?? I wasn't lying, that's for sure.

Hell, I was in Portsmouth Naval Hospital picking up PSW's prescription and while waiting struck up a conversation with the dude sitting next to me who owns his own marketing company. After a whopping 30 minute discussion, he was interested in swapping contact info to talk to me about a job in his company. Why? Because I had a good personality and graduated from the Academy. HIS WORDS. And he didn't even go there!!!

 

[freenavy]

Another thought that popped into my head. If I was accepted into the Academy being a prior, would I be required to do the Naval Officer option? Or would it be possible to switch over to the Marine option?

 

[DanMa1156]

Another thought that popped into my head. If I was accepted into the Academy being a prior, would I be required to do the Naval Officer option? Or would it be possible to switch over to the Marine option?

No, you can choose to become a Marine (though, like Pilot, is one of the more selective options, but not nearly as much so as SEAL or EOD). I had a few of my classmates who were priors go into the Marines and a couple Marine priors keep their khakis on in the Navy.

 

[freenavy]

No, you can choose to become a Marine (though, like Pilot, is one of the more selective options, but not nearly as much so as SEAL or EOD). I had a few of my classmates who were priors go into the Marines and a couple Marine priors keep their khakis on in the Navy.

When would they you require you to choose Marine Corps or Navy? Is it something that must be decided upon entrance?

Also I was reading the instruction and came across
"
c. Any enlisted Service member in the Navy or Marine Corps, or the Navy or Marine Corps Reserve on active duty may apply. In addition, enlisted members who apply to USNA and are not selected for direct entry are automatically considered for entrance into NAPS. To be considered for NAPS, applicants should not have passed their 22nd birthday on 1 July of the year that they will enter NAPS. "

This confuses me... Does this mean that all you have to do is apply and you get an automatic acceptance into NAPS if you are not accepted to the academy? I know that you still have to meet eligibility (secnav nomination, decent sat scores, etc).


Also... This little number

"(3) If applicants have any tattoos, brands or pierced body parts (with the exception of a single earring perforation in each earlobe for women), these must not be visible when wearing regulation swim gear. Any tattoos or brands that are prejudicial to good order and discipline, offensive, or are of a nature to bring discredit to the Naval Service are prohibited regardless of location. "

Can this be waived? I have a non offenseive tatto on my upper right arm, it can't be seen in uniform.

 

[RadicalDude]

You service select the fall before you graduate. So you don't have to technically "choose" whether you want Navy/Marines (or ground/air/swo/subs) until then.

NAPS does not accept everyone who doesn't get in to the Academy. It's typically for priors and athletes who need to strengthen basic academic grounding before starting the Academy's core curriculum. Although it's not unheard of for straight-out-of-highschoolers to get in.

I knew plenty of folks who had tattoos. Basically, if it can be covered in regulation PT gear (shorts and tshirt) and it's not offensive, you should be fine. You just have to submit a photo and written explanation.

 

[craftingraptor]

c. Any enlisted Service member in the Navy or Marine Corps, or the Navy or Marine Corps Reserve on active duty may apply. In addition, enlisted members who apply to USNA and are not selected for direct entry are automatically considered for entrance into NAPS.

consideration!=acceptance

 

[DanMa1156]

consideration!=acceptance

Are you being sarcastic?

 

[craftingraptor]

I'm not being sarcastic, but I also might have missed the question I was trying to shoot an answer to. It seemed to me that the poster was asking if he was automatically accepted into the NAPS program if the Academy said "no." He thought he was. So, I figured to follow the text to the letter and it says only consideration is guaranteed. I have no idea what the qualifications are for NAPS. I mean, hell, it's a pre-college program, but maybe they require some kind of gpa or something?

That it would be false to believe that just because you are considered, you are accepted; is all I meant to suggest. If I'm wrong, then I apologize.

 

[gaijin6423]

I don't think there are any minimum requirements or stats available on that, actually. Outside of USNA admissions, that is, but I'm uncertain if they publish them. If only there was someone who was stashed there last summer...

I do know that my class at NAPS (~12 years ago, mind you) was both the largest in a long while, and varied tremendously with respect to GPA, SAT/ACT, etc. We had a few people who had completed multiple feeder programs to get into USNA. There was even a girl who did BOOST, then stayed for a second year in Newport for NAPS.

 

[Wareal]

USNA vs ECP

My son weighed his options to become a Mustang. He chose STA-21. He's been in STA-21 (FY10) for 14 months, getting accepted with just over four years of active duty service. NROTC/STA-21 battalions vary by school and military friendliness. My son was accepted at his second choice, The Citadel, with open arms.

His first choice, UVA, was of little to no help, in spite of his eligibility, a born and bred Virginian, and visits to the school to pitch himself. School loans would have been necessary had he been accepted to UVA.

At The Citadel, the balance of his tuition, over and above the SAT-21 stipend, is "forgiven" (@ $25k per annum). His educational costs are at an extreme minimum. He took the advancement exam last August (if memory serves), passed, and will be getting the pay bump to first class some time this Spring.

During his application process (three years), my son had the benefit of sage advice from his first cousin, a 1996 USNA graduate.

 

[Godfrey]

Banned spammer.

 

[ssnspoon]

I can honestly say I am glad to be a USNA graduate, but it was my only viable option(2x XOI, 1x Captains mast, USNA said it was fine but ROTC said no, strange right?)...I applied to every commissioning program I could get my hands on. Now as a LT going over 14 years (for pay) and 18 years (for burnout) with 1.5 years left on my current tour...my decisions would be much different (not saying I would be getting out now) if those 4 years counted for retirement.

 

[BackOrdered]

I can honestly say I am glad to be a USNA graduate, but it was my only viable option(2x XOI, 1x Captains mast, USNA said it was fine but ROTC said no, strange right?)...I applied to every commissioning program I could get my hands on. Now as a LT going over 14 years (for pay) and 18 years (for burnout) with 1.5 years left on my current tour...my decisions would be much different (not saying I would be getting out now) if those 4 years counted for retirement.

I have heard very positive things about the chances for commission via USNA for enlisted, but for whatever reason sailors favor STA-21 or OCS.

 

[ea6bflyr]

I have heard very positive things about the chances for commission via USNA for enlisted, but for whatever reason sailors favor STA-21 or OCS.

For a large percentage of the Enlisted community, age is the first hurdle to the USNA. Second is probably having a spouse. That's probably why OCS and STA-21 are favored over USNA.

For me, by the time I decided to seek out a commission, I was too old (24) and married.

 

[BackOrdered]

For a large percentage of the Enlisted community, age is the first hurdle to the USNA. Second is probably having a spouse. That's probably why OCS and STA-21 are favored over USNA.

For me, by the time I decided to seek out a commission, I was too old (24) and married.

I didn't see passed "the prize" to consider the wages. Thanks.