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NEWS Navy Advanced Multi Engine Trainer Replacement

BattlingTrain

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Somewhat related to this thread, had a Boeing exec at out school so asked if they plan on pursuing the $1.5 Billion contract the Navy is asking for funding for a replacement for the F18 in the 2030s. Got a very non answer of "Boeing pursues all contracts but has the personnel in place from the F18 project and would like to pick up where the F18 leaves off".

So yea no real answer but still kinda interesting.
 
ChuckMK23

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Looks like first delivery to Corpus happened yesterday!

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FLGUY

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You know what’s funny? After talking to the METS guys, apparently the max gross weight of the T-54 is 12,500 pounds. AKA the highest weight it could possibly be without warranting a type rating.

The perception is that the Navy hates allowing its pilots to get type ratings. The P-8 isn’t “737 enough” to warrant a type, and the T-54 is one pound under the limit. 😔
 
Swanee

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FLGUY said:
You know what’s funny? After talking to the METS guys, apparently the max gross weight of the T-54 is 12,500 pounds. AKA the highest weight it could possibly be without warranting a type rating.

The perception is that the Navy hates allowing its pilots to get type ratings. The P-8 isn’t “737 enough” to warrant a type, and the T-54 is one pound under the limit. 😔
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Yet the Air Force had no problem with their T-1 guys getting Beechjet/Hawker 400A type ratings.
 
zippy

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FLGUY said:
You know what’s funny? After talking to the METS guys, apparently the max gross weight of the T-54 is 12,500 pounds. AKA the highest weight it could possibly be without warranting a type rating.

The perception is that the Navy hates allowing its pilots to get type ratings. The P-8 isn’t “737 enough” to warrant a type, and the T-54 is one pound under the limit. 😔
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In its defense, Navy didn’t set the MTOW weight of the T-54A to 12,500LBs. The King Air 260 MTOW is set/certified by Beechcraft.
The King Air 360 has a MTOW that requires a type rating but it’s overkill for training and isn’t even offered for sale as a Special Mission Aircraft solution for the activity.

kingairnation.com

King Air 260 (T-54A) Chosen to Replace T-44C Navy Trainer Aircraft, Contract Options Go Up to $677.2 Million

The U.S. Navy has awarded Textron Aviation a single, firm-fixed-price contract to develop the T-54A multi-engine training system (METS) aircraft. The base contract is for $113.1 million for 10 aircraft. Total contract value which includes base and contract options is $677.2 million for the...
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Training

It’s no secret that the best pilots train in the best aircraft. Textron Aviation has delivered thousands of aircraft to governments, private and commercial schools, and airline training facilities across the globe.
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FLGUY

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zippy said:
In its defense, Navy didn’t set the MTOW weight of the T-54A to 12,500LBs. The King Air 260 MTOW is set/certified by Beechcraft.
The King Air 360 has a MTOW that requires a type rating but it’s overkill for training and isn’t even offered for sale as a Special Mission Aircraft solution for the activity.

kingairnation.com

King Air 260 (T-54A) Chosen to Replace T-44C Navy Trainer Aircraft, Contract Options Go Up to $677.2 Million

The U.S. Navy has awarded Textron Aviation a single, firm-fixed-price contract to develop the T-54A multi-engine training system (METS) aircraft. The base contract is for $113.1 million for 10 aircraft. Total contract value which includes base and contract options is $677.2 million for the...
kingairnation.com kingairnation.com


Training

It’s no secret that the best pilots train in the best aircraft. Textron Aviation has delivered thousands of aircraft to governments, private and commercial schools, and airline training facilities across the globe.
specialmissions.txtav.com specialmissions.txtav.com
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Hey don’t let the facts get in the way of a good story ;)
 
hookskip

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FLGUY said:
You know what’s funny? After talking to the METS guys, apparently the max gross weight of the T-54 is 12,500 pounds. AKA the highest weight it could possibly be without warranting a type rating.

The perception is that the Navy hates allowing its pilots to get type ratings. The P-8 isn’t “737 enough” to warrant a type, and the T-54 is one pound under the limit. 😔
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To be eligible for a civilian type rating there has to be an equivalent type. The P-8 is built on a -800 fuselage but with -900 wings. Not to mention the torpedo bay.
 
FLGUY

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hookskip said:
To be eligible for a civilian type rating there has to be an equivalent type. The P-8 is built on a -800 fuselage but with -900 wings. Not to mention the torpedo bay.
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Right, but plenty of military aircraft are worthy of a civilian equivalent type despite having modifications. For example: the KC-135 warranting a 707 type.

And still, the 737-800 and -900 both fall under the 737NG, so I never understood the reasoning for the wings/fuselage combination of the P-8 being a contributing factor.
 
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