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NEWS Navy Advanced Multi Engine Trainer Replacement

ChuckMK23

Standing by for the RIF !
pilot
Is the gloss gray going to be the standard color? Not bad, just a bit...boring.
Yes. I believe this was covered in other posts. But the plan is for all CNATRA airframes move away from white/orange to gloss grey livery.
 

PhrogPhlyer

Two heads are better than one.
pilot
None
Started accepting the T-54 last April.
 

HuggyU2

Well-Known Member
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Are they being used yet in the Pilot Training syllabus? Or only being used for the instructors to get spun up?
 

PhrogPhlyer

Two heads are better than one.
pilot
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From this NAVAIR brief, it appears they are for PTS. However, since not in training colors, it is a good assumption that these will be used for to ramp up the first instructors. More of a differences training compared with a T-44.

Wondering why NAVAIR named the T-54 after a fish, the Martin P5M Marlin was a seaplane.
At least a Pegasus could fly.

 

ChuckMK23

Standing by for the RIF !
pilot
From this NAVAIR brief, it appears they are for PTS. However, since not in training colors, it is a good assumption that these will be used for to ramp up the first instructors. More of a differences training compared with a T-44.

Wondering why NAVAIR named the T-54 after a fish, the Martin P5M Marlin was a seaplane.
At least a Pegasus could fly.

Previous CNATRA Public Affairs posts indicate the "orange and white" livery is discontinued and all training command aircraft will receive overall gloss grey - from T-6, to TH-73, to T-45, as well as the T-54.
 

ChuckMK23

Standing by for the RIF !
pilot
I'm guessing that was determined after starting to receive the TH-73A?
Do you remember reading the reasoning behind this?
There is a very clear advantage to having highly visible aircraft in a dense training environment.
The article talked about reduced costs and maintenance - and that the new livery would be rolled out gradually on existing aircraft when hitting the paint shop.

I agree on timing with the TH-73A deliveries was not executed optimally!
 
The article talked about reduced costs and maintenance - and that the new livery would be rolled out gradually on existing aircraft when hitting the paint shop.

I agree on timing with the TH-73A deliveries was not executed optimally!
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Previous CNATRA Public Affairs posts indicate the "orange and white" livery is discontinued and all training command aircraft will receive overall gloss grey - from T-6, to TH-73, to T-45, as well as the T-54.
I can't picture a T-6B in gloss gray for some reason.
 

PhrogPhlyer

Two heads are better than one.
pilot
None
Previous CNATRA Public Affairs posts indicate the "orange and white" livery is discontinued and all training command aircraft will receive overall gloss grey - from T-6, to TH-73, to T-45, as well as the T-54.
I can not fathom CNATRA's reasoning here. 'Cause nothing says assisting the SNA with" see and avoid" like looking for other gray aircraft. "Yellow peril" and "orange on white" were used for valid training environment considerations. Must be part of the whole millennial gray color pallet.
 

jollygreen07

Professional (?) Flight Instructor
pilot
Contributor
My understanding is that the T-6’s will be dark blue. We have one at TW-6 and it looks pretty sharp. Chuck, your pic above was VT-10’s CONA paint scheme. The newest paint jobs don’t have the checkerboard on the nose.

As for visibility, it’s better and worse than orange and white. Against the ground and water: terrible. Against a (generally) lighter sky, better.
 
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