Looking at RN recruiting, you can apply to be a pilot, but I don't know if that's caveated with being a DivO before flight school.
I've only met one RN pilot, and he was a pilot who started as a SWO.
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Navy VS Air Force Helicopter Pilot
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I've only met one RN pilot, and he was a pilot who started as a SWO.
Max the Mad Russian
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Nowadays it seems they got rid of this practice too, except for "initial time with the fleet", a third and the last part of training in BRNC, where the midns are to be send to active surface ships for a month or two. Note that it takes about 3,5 years now for Royal Navy officers for full flight training from Elementary to a deployable squadron in case of F-35B and just about 2 years for rotary wings
The Marine enlisted Nav types went through similar training as the rest of us in USAF nav training, even using the same sims and planes, but in some ways their training was tougher in some respects than ours. From what little I know the Coasties had only a fraction of that training.
Max the Mad Russian
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You mean celestial things?
Yes, but they also focused a bit more on the basics while we covered a broader range of things.
When I went through Navigator training at Mather we had enlisted Marine Navs going through too. Their syllabus was close to ours flying wise (Celestial, radar, oceanic, etc.) except they added air-to0air refueling navigation (what that entailed I have no idea. but it can't be much) and cargo drop navigation (where to drop to hit the LZ). Where we were going to the RAG for more training after Mather they were basically going straight to C-130 units. Mather was Marine Navigator advanced training and RAG in one.
Marines also had to put up with all the Marine military bullshit like formations, inspections, etc. that Marines love. Not boot camp but very regimented time 24/7.
Marines also had to put up with all the Marine military bullshit like formations, inspections, etc. that Marines love. Not boot camp but very regimented time 24/7.
Max the Mad Russian
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Apparently Coasties' C-130s don't perform that either, so their enlisted Navs can combine this job with Flight Eng one and others.
From what little I know they had seperate folks but it is largely moot now with the C-130J's that don't have FE's or Nav's, with few exceptions.
Max the Mad Russian
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It seems to be a mistake to get rid of enlisted specialists on cargo airplanes.
There are still enlisted crewmen
Max the Mad Russian
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As a loadmasters/plane captains yes, but I meant rather some work in a cockpit. USAF tankers AFAIK still have FEs and they don't plan to change that order.
Max the Mad Russian
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According to youtube, cargo ramp drops from USCG Hercs are about very lightweight and compact packs from low height during daytime, so it seems far from being something that claims compulsory Navs training
Max the Mad Russian
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Back to a near topic theme: would somebody tell me could USAF HH-60G (or any other air refuelable helo, say Army SOF CH-47) be refueled in the air by CVW now retired assets, i.e. KA-6 or KS-3 carrier tanker? Assume (armchair expert's opinion of course) that Super Hornet maintaining this role nowadays is too fast for this.
