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Need some advice on how to go into Navy Aviation from abroad
- Thread starter Freddy
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Interesting, but of no real value to the OP. If still around, ask those euro school guys how they did it. Then report back here for Freddy and the benefit of the rest of us.
Freddy
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I finish this year in about 3 weeks and I'll be in the US from the 8th of June to around the 5th of October, my lectures start around the 12th.
So every year I get around 4 months in the US, does this help?
If there is a certain portion that would be best done in the US, and theres a certain portion that doesn't need to be in the US, would 4 months in the US and 8months over here be enough to get everything done?
Could the entire process be done in 4 months?
Also if I graduate after my 3rd year, does that mean I can apply in my second year? Or by a "year before" do you mean at the start of the 3rd year?
I'm not paying my education here off yet. Tuition is £3,000 per year (nationwide), and I've got some extra cash from loans for just living. Comes to around £6,000 total per year. So it's pretty cheap.
Also my eyes are not 20/20 at the moment. I'm going to start doing these eye exercises and I should see an improvement in the next month (according to the book), right now theyre 20/40. I read that the limit is 20/40, is this right or wrong? And when do I get an eye test with regards to when I apply?
So every year I get around 4 months in the US, does this help?
If there is a certain portion that would be best done in the US, and theres a certain portion that doesn't need to be in the US, would 4 months in the US and 8months over here be enough to get everything done?
Could the entire process be done in 4 months?
Also if I graduate after my 3rd year, does that mean I can apply in my second year? Or by a "year before" do you mean at the start of the 3rd year?
I'm not paying my education here off yet. Tuition is £3,000 per year (nationwide), and I've got some extra cash from loans for just living. Comes to around £6,000 total per year. So it's pretty cheap.
Also my eyes are not 20/20 at the moment. I'm going to start doing these eye exercises and I should see an improvement in the next month (according to the book), right now theyre 20/40. I read that the limit is 20/40, is this right or wrong? And when do I get an eye test with regards to when I apply?
Go see an OFFICER PROGRAMS RECRUITER when you are in the states. The recruiter may be an enlisted guy, but he has to be an officer recruiter. The recruiter in the nearest shopping mall is likely only an enlisted programs guy. The actual app, physical, fitness test, security clearance forms can be done in four months. You can apply for OCS 12 months prior to graduating regardless of how long it takes you to get the degree. Ask the recruiter about BDCP. I don't think it will be possible, but is worth asking, the money is great. 20/40 is good for pilot.
Everytime I see somebody's tuition and/or rent being either cheaper than mine or normal for a human being, I just sigh at my own student debt that's around 100 big ones and my rent which is stupidly non-humanly abnormally high...(sigh)
Personally, I first made the phone call to schedule a sit down with the officer recruiter the first week of February. We corresponded by email entirely (filling out application packet, motivational statement, gathering references, etc). Finally I ended up submitting to the April boards (I was hoping to submit for March, but was held up because I just couldn't get everything together in time...ASTB, references, letters of recc, et al). Selcted for SNA April, now I have MEPS scheduled, PFA scheduled, and clearance form submitted. All in, I'm at 4 months total from initial contact. So to answer your question, if you make contact and get all your items together by email while you're away, there's no reason why you wouldn't be able to show up stateside and take ASTB, and sign the final papers before it gets sent to Millington. It all depends on you and your OR's efficiency and ability to work out the scheduling. In theory you could make your first appearance in his office with all your stuff ready to go, take your ASTB,
and have the packet sent out within the first week you are stateside. Just be in good communications with your OR so he knows your scheduling situation before you show up.
So for argument's sake, say you make it to the states on the 15th and are able to send your packet out by the 25th for review. You'll know whether you got the slot about a month later (I found out the 29th of the month for which I submitted). At that point, getting through MEPS and fitness test needs to be done within 30 days of acceptance. That puts you at 2.5 months with 1.5 more months of buffer...on the flipside, if you say your vision isn't perfect, who knows what kind of waivers you may need to clear MEPS, not to mention any other medical issues you may or may not have that MEPS might balk at. Again, best to be in contact with your OR wayyyyy before you decide to work out timelines. In an ideal scenario, 8 months of prep abroad and 4 months stateside is enough time to apply. But it is rarely an ideal situation. If non-select and you need to retake ASTB and reapply, could extend that timline another 2 months before you could even apply again (i.e. if you are non-select for June, you would miss July board because you would be notified of select/non-select after the 25th deadline for the month...you would retake ASTB and apply for August board at the earliest). Begins to cut that timeframe down -- if you're selected for that reapplication, you still gotta hit MEPS, get your clearance through, and fitness test within 30 days of select. Not so easy to judge anymore...best thing is to be in touch with OR and see what he/she thinks.
Lots to digest, haha good luck
Personally, I first made the phone call to schedule a sit down with the officer recruiter the first week of February. We corresponded by email entirely (filling out application packet, motivational statement, gathering references, etc). Finally I ended up submitting to the April boards (I was hoping to submit for March, but was held up because I just couldn't get everything together in time...ASTB, references, letters of recc, et al). Selcted for SNA April, now I have MEPS scheduled, PFA scheduled, and clearance form submitted. All in, I'm at 4 months total from initial contact. So to answer your question, if you make contact and get all your items together by email while you're away, there's no reason why you wouldn't be able to show up stateside and take ASTB, and sign the final papers before it gets sent to Millington. It all depends on you and your OR's efficiency and ability to work out the scheduling. In theory you could make your first appearance in his office with all your stuff ready to go, take your ASTB,
and have the packet sent out within the first week you are stateside. Just be in good communications with your OR so he knows your scheduling situation before you show up.
So for argument's sake, say you make it to the states on the 15th and are able to send your packet out by the 25th for review. You'll know whether you got the slot about a month later (I found out the 29th of the month for which I submitted). At that point, getting through MEPS and fitness test needs to be done within 30 days of acceptance. That puts you at 2.5 months with 1.5 more months of buffer...on the flipside, if you say your vision isn't perfect, who knows what kind of waivers you may need to clear MEPS, not to mention any other medical issues you may or may not have that MEPS might balk at. Again, best to be in contact with your OR wayyyyy before you decide to work out timelines. In an ideal scenario, 8 months of prep abroad and 4 months stateside is enough time to apply. But it is rarely an ideal situation. If non-select and you need to retake ASTB and reapply, could extend that timline another 2 months before you could even apply again (i.e. if you are non-select for June, you would miss July board because you would be notified of select/non-select after the 25th deadline for the month...you would retake ASTB and apply for August board at the earliest). Begins to cut that timeframe down -- if you're selected for that reapplication, you still gotta hit MEPS, get your clearance through, and fitness test within 30 days of select. Not so easy to judge anymore...best thing is to be in touch with OR and see what he/she thinks.
Lots to digest, haha good luck
Freddy
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OK, so It looks like it is possible to get stuff done through email.
What do you mean by a "waiver" to clear meps? Do you mean a waiver for laser eye surgery?
If I did get selected would I have to do MEPS and PFA in the states? And how long are those processes?
On the board threads it looks like everyone has many military LORs. Familly probably aren't allowed to write these LORs, but they are the only military people I know.
My only LORs would be my highschool teacher(s) and my professors. They are almost certainly not going to write in the same style as US military personell. I'm confident my highschool teachers could sell me well, but my professors will only have known me for 3 years, the only contact being in lectures of 90 other students.
So how big a deal are LORs in this process?
Another thing is extra curricular. There are WAY less extra curric things in UK universities than US universities. Next year I'm going to start an R/C plane club, and use the wind tunnel. So that should bulk up my C.V, as I'd be taking a key admin position. The only other thing I'd have is this project I did with eurostar, working as an assitant engineer.
The guys on this forum seem to have alot more general and military extra curric stuff than I do. The fact is I had, and still dont have, anyway of accessing these extra curric activities.
So how big a deal are these?
The only other thing it looks like I need to work on is the ASTB and OAR and GPA.
ASTB and OAR should be fine.
But this school is hard. So I don't even know If im going to get a First at this point ( 1st = A = 4.0 ). If I don't get above a B my career outside the military would be screwed as well so I'll get that . But lets say I do get a B (3.0 ? ) Given my LOR and extra curric might look like crap compared to other candidates would this finish me off?
I've been reading around and a few people have said stuff like, the navy will take into account the school that you go to as well as the gpa, so top schools will be given some slack. Can anyway verify this?
I start exams in 1 week. The only practice material we have are some past papers. Only 2 generally, coz the other years are completely different formats (lecturers changed). For material science we only have 1, and the stuff she taught this year did not come up on ANY of the past paper. So I just don't know what I'm gonna get. Math + Statics/Dynamics seem fine. Aerodynamics + Thermodynamics are mainly ok, but they ask questions that we're never covered in lectures. Aircraft performance has a new lecturer, from MIT, who seems to make everything amazingly more complicated than it is. Everyone thinks hes going to give us a really bad paper. All it is is a bunch of formulas too, I have no Idea how to revise for this exam. It's kind like the position im in for material science.
Anyway all I can do is study, so I won't stress over it all too much, but yea right now I have no idea how this is going to turn out.
What do you mean by a "waiver" to clear meps? Do you mean a waiver for laser eye surgery?
If I did get selected would I have to do MEPS and PFA in the states? And how long are those processes?
On the board threads it looks like everyone has many military LORs. Familly probably aren't allowed to write these LORs, but they are the only military people I know.
My only LORs would be my highschool teacher(s) and my professors. They are almost certainly not going to write in the same style as US military personell. I'm confident my highschool teachers could sell me well, but my professors will only have known me for 3 years, the only contact being in lectures of 90 other students.
So how big a deal are LORs in this process?
Another thing is extra curricular. There are WAY less extra curric things in UK universities than US universities. Next year I'm going to start an R/C plane club, and use the wind tunnel. So that should bulk up my C.V, as I'd be taking a key admin position. The only other thing I'd have is this project I did with eurostar, working as an assitant engineer.
The guys on this forum seem to have alot more general and military extra curric stuff than I do. The fact is I had, and still dont have, anyway of accessing these extra curric activities.
So how big a deal are these?
The only other thing it looks like I need to work on is the ASTB and OAR and GPA.
ASTB and OAR should be fine.
But this school is hard. So I don't even know If im going to get a First at this point ( 1st = A = 4.0 ). If I don't get above a B my career outside the military would be screwed as well so I'll get that . But lets say I do get a B (3.0 ? ) Given my LOR and extra curric might look like crap compared to other candidates would this finish me off?
I've been reading around and a few people have said stuff like, the navy will take into account the school that you go to as well as the gpa, so top schools will be given some slack. Can anyway verify this?
I start exams in 1 week. The only practice material we have are some past papers. Only 2 generally, coz the other years are completely different formats (lecturers changed). For material science we only have 1, and the stuff she taught this year did not come up on ANY of the past paper. So I just don't know what I'm gonna get. Math + Statics/Dynamics seem fine. Aerodynamics + Thermodynamics are mainly ok, but they ask questions that we're never covered in lectures. Aircraft performance has a new lecturer, from MIT, who seems to make everything amazingly more complicated than it is. Everyone thinks hes going to give us a really bad paper. All it is is a bunch of formulas too, I have no Idea how to revise for this exam. It's kind like the position im in for material science.
Anyway all I can do is study, so I won't stress over it all too much, but yea right now I have no idea how this is going to turn out.
MEPS is a day long process, 5am-2pm'ish. PFA should take a half hour...its a 1.5 mile run, 2 minutes of pushups and 2 minutes of situps. Scheduling this stuff is what takes long, so that depends on you and your recruiter. For example, I was ready to take the PFA the day I set foot in recruiter's office, and that was like 2 months ago. I'm still only tentatively scheduled to actually do it this week.
As far as eye surgery and other ailments...you tell them at MEPS, they're probably going to want to subject you to more eye tests before they give you the all clear...I have 20/20 so I don't know details of what that may be, but expect to go through MEPS and have them say they want XYZ more tests done and medical history stuff before they clear you...who knows how long those can take. Then again, if you pass the vision test with no problems, they may not give a crap if you had it or not...there's really no way to tell, depends on their mood that day I guess. I'm not a MEPS doctor, so I don't know for fact.
As for the school and GPA thing, I graduated with a 2.993 GPA. However minimally below a 3.0 I was, it was still below a 3.0, which everyone says is the benchmark you need to at least hit to be competitive...on the flipside, it was from a top tier business program, so that probably accounts for the slack. But there's no formula to determine it.
I had 2 military reccomendations: one was my dad's cousin, the other was a friend's uncle (we had met briefly)...both were O-6's, Army and Navy respectively. I had a couple profs write letters, as well as the dean of my school, which ultimately served as mainly extras to bolster my app. My two really important ones were my employer references, which I am convinced sold it to the board...the reason is that they went beyond the standard letter of recc prose "He's extremely athletic and intelligent, has high moral standards, uses good judgment in stressful situations, etc" and went into detail about ways I had really shined when it came down to the wire, my abilities and how I was able to compose myself when faced with adversity, what that meant in terms of leadership. Those are really the things only someone who has known you for awhile could attest to, or at least someone who has been through the trenches with you, regardless of their background. In my case, an engineering employer and an advertising planner aren't exactly military, but I think their recc's carried the most weight in the long run.
As for your profs, they can definitely tout the rigors of the academic program and thereby attest to the intelligence it takes to be successful in it...it couldn't hurt to reach out to them and sit down to discuss what you're tryign to do. Most will find it incredibly admirable and will be willing to write you something intense and characterizing, regardless of how well they may have actually known you (as was the case with my profs and the dean of my school). But moreso, best to get someone who can fill that letter with substance, regardless of their background.
For extra-curriculars, they like sports. Competitive sports means you value your physical performance and health, and can call upon it in times of need. I personally think people generally respond well to physical prowess, which is why it is a good telling of leadership potential...my personal views on why I think physical is important.
Can't offer any advice on the taking PFA abroad or MEPS abroad, I just don't know how that works.
Other than that, you're probably not going to change your grades by that much, and you can't make up for not doing a ton of extra-curriculars over the last 4 years in one year. All you can do is go into battle with the weapons you have, and hope heart and determination combined with your other strengths pull you through. You'll never know what the board is looking for that day, what they would say no to, what would sell it to them...just gotta make that packet as strong as you can and apply, and probably say a prayer or two just for good measure.
Good luck
As far as eye surgery and other ailments...you tell them at MEPS, they're probably going to want to subject you to more eye tests before they give you the all clear...I have 20/20 so I don't know details of what that may be, but expect to go through MEPS and have them say they want XYZ more tests done and medical history stuff before they clear you...who knows how long those can take. Then again, if you pass the vision test with no problems, they may not give a crap if you had it or not...there's really no way to tell, depends on their mood that day I guess. I'm not a MEPS doctor, so I don't know for fact.
As for the school and GPA thing, I graduated with a 2.993 GPA. However minimally below a 3.0 I was, it was still below a 3.0, which everyone says is the benchmark you need to at least hit to be competitive...on the flipside, it was from a top tier business program, so that probably accounts for the slack. But there's no formula to determine it.
I had 2 military reccomendations: one was my dad's cousin, the other was a friend's uncle (we had met briefly)...both were O-6's, Army and Navy respectively. I had a couple profs write letters, as well as the dean of my school, which ultimately served as mainly extras to bolster my app. My two really important ones were my employer references, which I am convinced sold it to the board...the reason is that they went beyond the standard letter of recc prose "He's extremely athletic and intelligent, has high moral standards, uses good judgment in stressful situations, etc" and went into detail about ways I had really shined when it came down to the wire, my abilities and how I was able to compose myself when faced with adversity, what that meant in terms of leadership. Those are really the things only someone who has known you for awhile could attest to, or at least someone who has been through the trenches with you, regardless of their background. In my case, an engineering employer and an advertising planner aren't exactly military, but I think their recc's carried the most weight in the long run.
As for your profs, they can definitely tout the rigors of the academic program and thereby attest to the intelligence it takes to be successful in it...it couldn't hurt to reach out to them and sit down to discuss what you're tryign to do. Most will find it incredibly admirable and will be willing to write you something intense and characterizing, regardless of how well they may have actually known you (as was the case with my profs and the dean of my school). But moreso, best to get someone who can fill that letter with substance, regardless of their background.
For extra-curriculars, they like sports. Competitive sports means you value your physical performance and health, and can call upon it in times of need. I personally think people generally respond well to physical prowess, which is why it is a good telling of leadership potential...my personal views on why I think physical is important.
Can't offer any advice on the taking PFA abroad or MEPS abroad, I just don't know how that works.
Other than that, you're probably not going to change your grades by that much, and you can't make up for not doing a ton of extra-curriculars over the last 4 years in one year. All you can do is go into battle with the weapons you have, and hope heart and determination combined with your other strengths pull you through. You'll never know what the board is looking for that day, what they would say no to, what would sell it to them...just gotta make that packet as strong as you can and apply, and probably say a prayer or two just for good measure.
Good luck
Freddy
New Member
Yo Santi, and everyone else.
Thanks for the replies.
Santi:
Where you were talking about your student debt: was that from Private Student Loans?
I don't think any of my Uncles would cosign a Private Loan for $20,000 per year, but I think I might give it a try.
It would end up around $100,000 in balance after 3 years, kinda like yours.
I've been talking to a friend over here and for his graduate degree he took out around 120,000 in loans.
So It looks like it isn't out of the ordinary for people to have around $100,000 in student loans.
So would It be completely stupid and obnoxious for me to take out around 100,000 in loans? [Private Loans - are they THAT much different from stafford loans?]
The advantages I see would be being able to adjust to a new envoironment over more time (+ 2 or 3 years), having a life, being able to apply for BDCP, being in closer contact with relatives and recruiters,etc..
The only disadvantage would be a $100,000 loan, as opposed to around $30,000. However I've read that the Navy has a student loan repayment option , which pays up to $65,000. Is this correct?
Also the average starting salary for an Bachelors here is like 20/30,000 max. In the aerospace industry the average wage is something like £50,000. Whereas in the US it's more like $90,000 for average, and the starting salary is around 50-60,000. So I beleive there is a means to pay it off.
What do you think?
Thanks for the replies.
Santi:
Where you were talking about your student debt: was that from Private Student Loans?
I don't think any of my Uncles would cosign a Private Loan for $20,000 per year, but I think I might give it a try.
It would end up around $100,000 in balance after 3 years, kinda like yours.
I've been talking to a friend over here and for his graduate degree he took out around 120,000 in loans.
So It looks like it isn't out of the ordinary for people to have around $100,000 in student loans.
So would It be completely stupid and obnoxious for me to take out around 100,000 in loans? [Private Loans - are they THAT much different from stafford loans?]
The advantages I see would be being able to adjust to a new envoironment over more time (+ 2 or 3 years), having a life, being able to apply for BDCP, being in closer contact with relatives and recruiters,etc..
The only disadvantage would be a $100,000 loan, as opposed to around $30,000. However I've read that the Navy has a student loan repayment option , which pays up to $65,000. Is this correct?
Also the average starting salary for an Bachelors here is like 20/30,000 max. In the aerospace industry the average wage is something like £50,000. Whereas in the US it's more like $90,000 for average, and the starting salary is around 50-60,000. So I beleive there is a means to pay it off.
What do you think?
Freddy
New Member
Also, this probably seems stupid,
but it just feels like I've missed out on alot of a normal childhood and stuff like that. The schools I went to were shit holes, even though I got along with people they were typical inner-city schools with cops hanging around, gangs visiting and stealing computers, etc. I mean I didn't grow up around like buckingham palace or shit like that. The first time I've been around other white-english people is this year, and I kinda just wished I could've gotten a normal education in the states and be a normal guy. Don't get me wrong I've always been competitive and tried to be the best at everything, and am glad I'm going to an amazing school...
I mean after school and college do you still feel like life is fun? I mean the navy sounds great but It can only last so long.
The whole thing is I've never had people I could relate to. I grew up kinda as a navy kid, my mum would always tell us stories about her time in the navy n stuff like that. So growing up in London was pretty isolated, nobody here in the inner-city is remotely interested in anything US or anything Military... I just feel like If I don't live and exist in the US as student I'll never really make the transition to a normal citizen.
I guess perspective changes over time but, yea thats just how I see right now. It's probably all bullshit...
but it just feels like I've missed out on alot of a normal childhood and stuff like that. The schools I went to were shit holes, even though I got along with people they were typical inner-city schools with cops hanging around, gangs visiting and stealing computers, etc. I mean I didn't grow up around like buckingham palace or shit like that. The first time I've been around other white-english people is this year, and I kinda just wished I could've gotten a normal education in the states and be a normal guy. Don't get me wrong I've always been competitive and tried to be the best at everything, and am glad I'm going to an amazing school...
I mean after school and college do you still feel like life is fun? I mean the navy sounds great but It can only last so long.
The whole thing is I've never had people I could relate to. I grew up kinda as a navy kid, my mum would always tell us stories about her time in the navy n stuff like that. So growing up in London was pretty isolated, nobody here in the inner-city is remotely interested in anything US or anything Military... I just feel like If I don't live and exist in the US as student I'll never really make the transition to a normal citizen.
I guess perspective changes over time but, yea thats just how I see right now. It's probably all bullshit...
The student loan repayment option is for Enlisted only, not Officers (I definetly asked my recruiter about that as well). I have several friends who have loan amounts in or around six figures, and they all manage with their civilian jobs. Some of them have better jobs than others, but all fairly comprable to what you would make in the Navy when you factor in BAH, etc. etc. I myself have about 40K, which is a lot better than 100K, but if I were in your shoes, I wouldn't bat an eyelash at getting that much money from loans. In the Navy, you should be able to afford your payments (but I'll let someone who is in and has a lot of loans comment more on that), and as a civilian in your field, as you've correctly pointed out, there are some good salaries to be had. Best of luck with making this decision! And btw, I personally would recommend Purdue (even though the ROTC didn't work out)...I didn't go there, but had a lot of fun there, and it is a great school for aero when it comes to research with top companies.
Freddy
New Member
Hey everyone, I haven't posted in a while but I thought I'd keep you all updated.
This summer I saw an officer programs recruiter and I talked to some NRotc guys at Purdue.
So the officer programs recruiter told me that being at an overseas institution means I can't do BDCP or anything like that. OK. So then I asked about OCS, and he said I'd have to send my transcripts to the Dept. of Education and have it checked to see if it's the same as a US BSc degree.
He made it sound like transferring would be a better idea.
Anyway so later we talked to Purdue and their rotc unit. The 2 year scholarship is closed, but the executive officer there told me I could just apply for the 4 year scholarship, while listing the courses I have already taken at college. ( I would have to get my transcript sent to Purdue and see what courses I can get completed from my time at Imperial college london). Anyway his idea was that they would be giving out another scholarship, but instead of paying for 4 years it would only be 3/2/whatever, which is a better deal. Thus making it attractive.
However, I already started looking at the NRotc application form and I need a state of legal residence and there are other requirements. E.g:
- Students w/30 or more semester hours or 45 or more quarter hours of college credit upon application or students already enrolled in NROTC College Program are not eligible for four-year NROTC Scholarships; these students should see professors of naval science at host university's NROTC unit to discuss other scholarship opportunities.
So I'll talk to XO there again, today's labor day so I gotta wait till tomorrow I reckon. Hopefully there's some way to work around the beaurcracy and see if I can get his idea to work. Anyway so tomorrow I'll call him, get some transcripts sent over there and see what happens.
I'm keeping my record on Purdues system for this next year, and reapplying basically. I'll look around for some more scholarships just incase. If I can get my degree looked at and if it's close enough to a US degree I might just stay here. Otherwise the recruiter said I might have to take some extra classes ( no big deal ).
Anyway thats where I'm at, messy buisness haha.
This summer I saw an officer programs recruiter and I talked to some NRotc guys at Purdue.
So the officer programs recruiter told me that being at an overseas institution means I can't do BDCP or anything like that. OK. So then I asked about OCS, and he said I'd have to send my transcripts to the Dept. of Education and have it checked to see if it's the same as a US BSc degree.
He made it sound like transferring would be a better idea.
Anyway so later we talked to Purdue and their rotc unit. The 2 year scholarship is closed, but the executive officer there told me I could just apply for the 4 year scholarship, while listing the courses I have already taken at college. ( I would have to get my transcript sent to Purdue and see what courses I can get completed from my time at Imperial college london). Anyway his idea was that they would be giving out another scholarship, but instead of paying for 4 years it would only be 3/2/whatever, which is a better deal. Thus making it attractive.
However, I already started looking at the NRotc application form and I need a state of legal residence and there are other requirements. E.g:
- Students w/30 or more semester hours or 45 or more quarter hours of college credit upon application or students already enrolled in NROTC College Program are not eligible for four-year NROTC Scholarships; these students should see professors of naval science at host university's NROTC unit to discuss other scholarship opportunities.
So I'll talk to XO there again, today's labor day so I gotta wait till tomorrow I reckon. Hopefully there's some way to work around the beaurcracy and see if I can get his idea to work. Anyway so tomorrow I'll call him, get some transcripts sent over there and see what happens.
I'm keeping my record on Purdues system for this next year, and reapplying basically. I'll look around for some more scholarships just incase. If I can get my degree looked at and if it's close enough to a US degree I might just stay here. Otherwise the recruiter said I might have to take some extra classes ( no big deal ).
Anyway thats where I'm at, messy buisness haha.
Freddy
New Member
Hey wink 
It looks like I can't do the NRotc thing because of that 30 to 45 hour limit.
I talked to another recruiter and he said after I graduate and get my final transcript for my degree I could have it converted into a GPA. After this I could apply to OCS. This means I wouldn't be able to apply during my last year, and I would have to wait a month or two before I could actually get the final transcript. So I would be sitting around doing nothing for a few months. It could also mean my GPA is lower than it should be or my degree might not even count for anything - right now I'm looking into whether or not I can get some internships in the summer so I can get a civilian job in the end, just in case.
I'm going to start applying for private scholarships from collegeboard, the $1000 to $4000 ones. Hopefully I'll be able to rack up a few and go to Purdue next year. Purdues aerospace engineering programme is now closed since it's very full so I might just stick to mechanical if it all works out. Then again they might open it again, who knows.
Never say die, right?
It looks like I can't do the NRotc thing because of that 30 to 45 hour limit.
I talked to another recruiter and he said after I graduate and get my final transcript for my degree I could have it converted into a GPA. After this I could apply to OCS. This means I wouldn't be able to apply during my last year, and I would have to wait a month or two before I could actually get the final transcript. So I would be sitting around doing nothing for a few months. It could also mean my GPA is lower than it should be or my degree might not even count for anything - right now I'm looking into whether or not I can get some internships in the summer so I can get a civilian job in the end, just in case.
I'm going to start applying for private scholarships from collegeboard, the $1000 to $4000 ones. Hopefully I'll be able to rack up a few and go to Purdue next year. Purdues aerospace engineering programme is now closed since it's very full so I might just stick to mechanical if it all works out. Then again they might open it again, who knows.
Never say die, right?
