That was absolutely awesome. It took me a second to get, but I had just seen that a couple months ago. Hilarious.
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No more helo hoist
- Thread starter Python
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UH-1 when I went through and we did the parasailing into the bay, you disentangled, got in your raft, the helo showed up and you bailed from the raft and they hoisted you then back down and the boat came by and picked up you and the raft and your chute.
All in all, the initial and DWEST training I went through 20+ years ago was amazingly good. It gave you darn good confidence that you could survive an over water ejection and water landing, which was the point after all.
Wonder how long until you just have a classroom session and call it good? :icon_rage Good training cost money and you guys deserve the best.
phrogpilot73
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Not really, it's probably some of the same reasoning that led to the USMC SAR in Beaufort being shut down. The Coast Guard air station is close enough, so why duplicate assets?
Seeing as how the Coast Guard's RAG (or whatever they call it) is at Mobile, I would have thought it would keep going - since they can get training out of it as well...
The only actual rescue when I was in Pensacola was done by an HH-65 out of Mobile. A German Navy SNFO did his own Gilligan impression and was swept out to sea in a raft. A student in a T-1 found him the next day and the Dolphin went out to pick him up.
This is why you tie a milk jug to the top of the mast.
Unfortunately, SAR Med Techs (SMTs) are in short supply and your average AW is trained in only the most basic first aid.
Seriously? Not like flapping loose?
Why is that? Has to be an aircrew HM or something?
Very true. I didn't mean it in a sense that it was a lack of quals, but that the severity of the injuries were out of the scope of Navy SAR and more for trauma first responders, unfortunately.
I was just trying to provide amplifying information. The unwashed masses probably tend to think that a SAR bird is a SAR bird. Unfortunately, there's a huge difference in the level of abilities between a Navy AW and PJs. I don't know what level of medical training USCG swimmers have, but I'd imagine it'd be higher than a Navy AW. The introduction of SMTs brings a lot to the Navy, but there's just not a lot of them to have them filter down to Station SARs.
To answer eddie's question: An SMT is an HM with aircrew wings.
At-Sea Rescue Story
For those of you interested in reading about a very successful SAR at sea under combat conditions in No. Vietnam, go to search as follows:
Forum: MILITARY AVIATION IN GENERAL
Thread: "There I was" stories of a Vietnam era A4 Driver
Page: 4 of 6 (Posted 04-18-09 @ 04:19pm by Brownshoe (link is here)
It is the firsthand story of my shootdown & subsequent rescue along the coast of NVN near the city of Vinh on 06/25/66. I am glad I got to practice an actual at sea helo rescue prior to that deployment, as I knew exactly what to do when the chips were down. If they no longer give aircrew that realistic training, I think it's a big mistake.
I will be happy to answer any questions concerning the rescue. It really shows the success that can happen when the USAF, USN, 2 different Carriers & many Squadrons work together to rescue their "Brothers in Arms" under hazardous conditions.:icon_mi_1
BzB
For those of you interested in reading about a very successful SAR at sea under combat conditions in No. Vietnam, go to search as follows:
Forum: MILITARY AVIATION IN GENERAL
Thread: "There I was" stories of a Vietnam era A4 Driver
Page: 4 of 6 (Posted 04-18-09 @ 04:19pm by Brownshoe (link is here)
It is the firsthand story of my shootdown & subsequent rescue along the coast of NVN near the city of Vinh on 06/25/66. I am glad I got to practice an actual at sea helo rescue prior to that deployment, as I knew exactly what to do when the chips were down. If they no longer give aircrew that realistic training, I think it's a big mistake.
I will be happy to answer any questions concerning the rescue. It really shows the success that can happen when the USAF, USN, 2 different Carriers & many Squadrons work together to rescue their "Brothers in Arms" under hazardous conditions.:icon_mi_1
BzB
A "Giclee" print of the original painting done by the artist, Ron McCarthy, about this story.
Steve
Edit: No Mod's stepped up to correct Hugh's mistake in his link, so here's the original story.
Steve
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I didn't do the helo hoist or redneck parasailing, and I'm 100% confident that I can handle bailing and an extended at sea survival and rescue situation.
BTW...total bummer that there's no raft available in the T34C. Even a shark taco would be more comfy than nothing.
BTW...total bummer that there's no raft available in the T34C. Even a shark taco would be more comfy than nothing.