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North Korean Rocket Launched
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Lonestar155
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Estes Rockets make better rockets than the North Koreans. That would be a great selling slogan.
You have personal experience with this? Sure sounds like it. Sounds like a great thread jack so spill it.
Good luck on getting anything out of the U.N.
http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSTRE53058220090405?sp=true
http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSTRE53058220090405?sp=true
Yep. And the result? Condemnations may soon become concessions.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123897539942591099.html
Chinese and Russian envoys resisted a statement even expressing "concern" over the launch:
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-north-korea-main6-2009apr06,0,6990607.story
The Chinese, I get: they don't want to push NK because they don't want a war or a chaotic, collapsed state and hordes of refugees on their border. I'm not sure I know why Russia's fighting this. Because they're Russians and being contrary bastards is in their basic nature?
They are looking to reassert themselves.
The Chinese have multiple motivations...they don't want an unstable North Korea any more than the US does. However, China and Russia share a motivation to ideologically oppose US interests. Combined with the economic crisis and current US military obligations, this is yet another opportunity to not allow the US to assert itself...similar to China and Russia both floating the "alternative reserve currency" proposals before the G-20.
It's too bad that China and Russia don't realize that this isn't just about the US and UN, and the rest of the world doesn't find North Korea's actions very amusing.
Your first guess is probably pretty accurate. Don't make the mistake of thinking that these guys are our friends. They never have been and never will be. They have no reason to even act like it now. It's pretty obvious that they smell weakness.
I wonder what President Obama thinks of his chances of talking the Russians into jumping on his "nuke free world" plan? Maybe he should make some campaign stops in Moscow?
voodooqueen
DAR Lapsarian
I read something on CNN this week that mentioned that Russia was in accord with Obama's nuke disarmament plan. (Often enough those little CNN blurbs turn out to have grounds in a sort of truth.)
The agreement is to come up with a new Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty (START) by the end of the year, when the old one runs out. It is generally a good thing, from a lot of perspectives, but it is no disarmament plan by any means.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/01/washington/01arms.html?ref=global-home
LA Times article with some more info:
http://tinyurl.com/c992fq
I wonder if there will be any attempt to try and recover the wreckage.
http://tinyurl.com/c992fq
I wonder if there will be any attempt to try and recover the wreckage.
I doubt the good parts are feasible to find. If we do try, no one will know for a long time. Too bad the Glomar Explorer is taken.
It probably would not be feasible or useful. Unless they are specifically designed and built to be recovered there is usually not many big pieces of a rocket/missile left after a launch, especially after it hits the water and particularly after a failure.
Back after a "good weekend" ... and I've scanned most of these posts that essentially say the same thing ... 
But: does ANYONE think mebbe "we" let it go downrange --- just to see how much the NK's know about missiles/rockets ???
But: does ANYONE think mebbe "we" let it go downrange --- just to see how much the NK's know about missiles/rockets ???