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OCS Flight Physical

BleedGreen

Well-Known Member
pilot
As of Oct they were still using the old school flip book and same with at NAMI once we got to Pensacola.
 

Que3n

Member
pilot
Too much time waiting for the next SNA rolling board has me reading and now over-analyzing/worrying about the color vision test at NAMI.

At MEPS I was 1/14 (1 lucky guess) on the Ishihara flip book test; then on the FALANT lantern test I was perfect. At that point I was applying for an 1180 designator, not SNA and was told I'm good to go. I have now resubmitted for SNA and am worried after reading of the NAMI whammy which apparently DQ's individuals at the end of OCS. If you fail the flip-book will they re-evaluate using FALANT or are you "whammy'd"
I have a family friend who is a Naval Flight Surgeon, he insists that I will be alright and I was able to pass his test (newest version of the flip-book) Should I get a formal exam and have any documentation ready to show to the NAMI Doctors if necessary or would that be a waste of everyones time?

Thanks in advance.
 

LFCFan

*Insert nerd wings here*
Too much time waiting for the next SNA rolling board has me reading and now over-analyzing/worrying about the color vision test at NAMI.

At MEPS I was 1/14 (1 lucky guess) on the Ishihara flip book test; then on the FALANT lantern test I was perfect. At that point I was applying for an 1180 designator, not SNA and was told I'm good to go. I have now resubmitted for SNA and am worried after reading of the NAMI whammy which apparently DQ's individuals at the end of OCS. If you fail the flip-book will they re-evaluate using FALANT or are you "whammy'd"
I have a family friend who is a Naval Flight Surgeon, he insists that I will be alright and I was able to pass his test (newest version of the flip-book) Should I get a formal exam and have any documentation ready to show to the NAMI Doctors if necessary or would that be a waste of everyones time?

Thanks in advance.

You can fly with the FALANT in the Navy. I failed the Ishihara at MEPS, passed the FALANT, and then somehow passed the Ishihara at OCS (but got NPQed for other things). I can't speak for the NAMI physical in P-Cola, but I'd be shocked if they have it an MEPS and not NAMI, of all the important places to have it.

The upside to colorblindness at OCS is that it gets you out of the "go SWO or go home" debacle.
 

LFCFan

*Insert nerd wings here*
This may merely be speculation, but I was told by my recruiter that if you fail the physical at OCS, they just send you home with no commission. However, if you pass at OCS and fail at NAMI, then you have the option to re-designate. Can anyone confirm or debunk this?

There is a whole thread on this somewhere.

I've heard the bit about OCS as well, but so far no evidence on whether or not it is true - no AW posters telling us about their experiences or a classmate who was sent home in candio phase. When I was at OCS last year they fought to convince people to stay with different designators. It will all depend on the numbers game the Navy is playing that week/FY/whatever. I know a bunch of folks who had issues in P-Cola, some medical and some not, who are on their way out of the Navy. Same with those who didn't make it at BUDS.
 

BleedGreen

Well-Known Member
pilot
If anything I think its harder to re-designate after OCS because your already an Officer with an assigned designator, which means you have to put in a package for a re-designation board . At OCS, it seems like they have an easier time just plugging you into another billet for a community that still has openings for the given FY.
 

Que3n

Member
pilot
You can fly with the FALANT in the Navy. I failed the Ishihara at MEPS, passed the FALANT, and then somehow passed the Ishihara at OCS (but got NPQed for other things). I can't speak for the NAMI physical in P-Cola, but I'd be shocked if they have it an MEPS and not NAMI, of all the important places to have it.

The upside to colorblindness at OCS is that it gets you out of the "go SWO or go home" debacle.

Thank you for your input, puts my mind at ease a bit.
 

utswimmer37

"Descent Planning"
pilot
You can fly with the FALANT in the Navy. I failed the Ishihara at MEPS, passed the FALANT, and then somehow passed the Ishihara at OCS (but got NPQed for other things). I can't speak for the NAMI physical in P-Cola, but I'd be shocked if they have it an MEPS and not NAMI, of all the important places to have it.

The upside to colorblindness at OCS is that it gets you out of the "go SWO or go home" debacle.
Ishihara is the test with random dots everywhere and some colored ones sprinkled in there to make a number or shape, correct?
 

LFCFan

*Insert nerd wings here*
Ishihara is the test with random dots everywhere and some colored ones sprinkled in there to make a number or shape, correct?

Correct. FALANT is just blinking white, green, and red lights. Frankly if you can't pass the FALANT they could reverse the red/green light positions on traffic lights and you'd never notice.
 

DPS2114

New Member
How is the OCS physical different than MEPS in terms of what they actually test?

MEPS from what I remember was:
-blood
-eyes
-drug
-physical exam by doctor.

Just curious if they do things like test how long it take for you to get situated after being spun around, hand eye, etc.
 

speedroller

Rangers
Make sure you read as much as you can about PRK. If your vision is over corrected you can be DQed for that. Try to find a doctor who is familiar with PRK requirements for the military.

Can anyone elaborate more on the overcorrection? I am having PRK done on 22 September, 2014. Currently have 20/30 and 20/40 with -1.00 in both eyes.
 

jiggs

Naval Aviator
j.petrovics,

I don't know the details about overcorrection, but I am pretty sure your vision already falls within the acceptable range (as long as it's fully correctable). Why risk losing that by getting expensive surgery?
 

speedroller

Rangers
j.petrovics,

I don't know the details about overcorrection, but I am pretty sure your vision already falls within the acceptable range (as long as it's fully correctable). Why risk losing that by getting expensive surgery?

It is fully correctable to 20/20, however, I have slight astigmatism in my right eye. I am shooting for SNA slot, so I want my eyes to be 20/20. And yes, I am within spec, limit for SNA/NFO is 20/40, correctable to 20/20.
 

TimeBomb

Noise, vibration and harshness
j.
While I realize this is your decision alone, I would be hesitant to undergo a surgical procedure to correct this minor degree of refractive error. Remember always that you don't have anything medical can't make worse. Bad outcomes do occasionally result from seemingly innocuous procedures, and a bad outcome in your case could ruin your chances for selection for aviation, or even general commissioning. Seen it happen.
R/
 

speedroller

Rangers
j.
While I realize this is your decision alone, I would be hesitant to undergo a surgical procedure to correct this minor degree of refractive error. Remember always that you don't have anything medical can't make worse. Bad outcomes do occasionally result from seemingly innocuous procedures, and a bad outcome in your case could ruin your chances for selection for aviation, or even general commissioning. Seen it happen.
R/

I am aware of the risk involved, but from consulting with my dr. I have confidence that the result outcome would be successful. I am doing this for my own good to get rid of glasses and contacts, decision made before I even considered Naval Aviation.
 
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