Good update…thanks. Nice to know excuses are back in!
But seriously, didn't we all know that saying "No excuse, Sir!" was just a polite way of saying "Sir, we both know I screwed the pooch here. That's all I can say right now…"?
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Packet is in... waiting game... turn my attention to OCS preperation
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But seriously, didn't we all know that saying "No excuse, Sir!" was just a polite way of saying "Sir, we both know I screwed the pooch here. That's all I can say right now…"?
I honestly don't understand "No excuse, Sir!" All it says is you've lost control of the situation and are now passing the burden of finding a solution off. I have NEVER seen any thing good come out of it.
Zeb
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I'm also an IRON athlete... question...
Do you think we can bring our bikes and leave them in our car for when we get Liberty?
I would doubt it, except for the fact that they built new Nimitz Hall with a bunch of bike racks, for which I have not discovered a purpose. I'm pretty sure I saw a guy from student pool on a bike at some point. At the very least, you should be able to bring them, and then the worst they can tell you is "no."
I see what you did there.....
DoubleOswo7
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I had interpreted "No excuse, sir!" as "No valid/real/acceptable excuse!"
Eh, same thing. We had to get the whole boot too, but really it was the toe that mattered like you said.
I know who this is, and he's a guy from my class who graduated and is waiting to commission. No one is going to care if someone has a bike in their car.
I had to admit that it was odd how SWO centric the whole program was when a minority of the OCs are going to be SWOs. You'd hear things like "Naval officer first" (as if moboards are more officer-like) or "Hey aviators, If you're ever the CO of a big deck you'll need this!" or even "Aviators? You mean future SWOs!" Don't get me wrong, I really liked most of the instructors and class Os from my time there, but there were just two aviators working there if I recall, and only one was an instructor. Some aviation stuff came up in engineering and weapons, and we had to aircraft and their weapons for ORLP just the same as the surface and sub side of things. If you were going to tailor the program to the majority of OCs, it would have a much stronger aviation focus.
Eh, same thing. We had to get the whole boot too, but really it was the toe that mattered like you said.
I know who this is, and he's a guy from my class who graduated and is waiting to commission. No one is going to care if someone has a bike in their car.
I had to admit that it was odd how SWO centric the whole program was when a minority of the OCs are going to be SWOs. You'd hear things like "Naval officer first" (as if moboards are more officer-like) or "Hey aviators, If you're ever the CO of a big deck you'll need this!" or even "Aviators? You mean future SWOs!" Don't get me wrong, I really liked most of the instructors and class Os from my time there, but there were just two aviators working there if I recall, and only one was an instructor. Some aviation stuff came up in engineering and weapons, and we had to aircraft and their weapons for ORLP just the same as the surface and sub side of things. If you were going to tailor the program to the majority of OCs, it would have a much stronger aviation focus.
LFCFan
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I'm going to disagree with this for the sake of future OCs who might be reading and might get the impression that moboards should be a breeze. A lot of people struggle with moboards; I've seen some very bright people struggle with them and some not-so-bright people get them very easily. About 20% of a class (or more!) will fail their NOS exam and have to retake it. Moboards might not be hard, but learning them at the same time as navigation and ORLP is not easy.
Is the new Nimitz Hall a LEED Certified building? If it is then I can pretty much guarantee that the bike racks are there for the LEED points. I can also pretty much guarantee that if the building was done in the past couple of years that it was designed for LEED Silver certification even if it didn't go through the application process. All government buildings are now required to meet LEED certification standards of silver or better. Just a little FYI from the building side of things.
My brain hurts so much right now…WTF are you even talking about, PenguinGal???Is the new Nimitz Hall a LEED Certified building? If it is then I can pretty much guarantee that the bike racks are there for the LEED points. I can also pretty much guarantee that if the building was done in the past couple of years that it was designed for LEED Silver certification even if it didn't go through the application process. All government buildings are now required to meet LEED certification standards of silver or better. Just a little FYI from the building side of things.
Please don't tell me Nimitz Hall will also get an "epic failing grade" for not having ADA-certified handicapped access….unless there's something else I don't know about OCS these days…which there undoubtedly is. Times "many".
Actually I was talking about someone who came in with my class, but I digress.
One thing it might behoove you to learn before going to OCS is the saying "It's easier to ask forgiveness than it is to get permission." Within reason, do stuff until/unless you're told otherwise.
My brain hurts so much right now…WTF are you even talking about, PenguinGal???
Please don't tell me Nimitz Hall will also get an "epic failing grade" for not having ADA-certified handicapped access….unless there's something else I don't know about OCS these days…which there undoubtedly is. Times "many".
LEED stands for Leadership in Energy and Environmental Design. It is a raring system foe buildings by the US Green Building Council. (USGBC) It basically says wthee or not a building uses sustainable practices from constriction through management.
As for ADA? Well, I'm no architect (they deal with those codes) but I imagine that as a military facility it is exempt from a lot of that stuff.
Any other questions about green design?
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Spekkio
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When I attended, the only people who failed moboards were SWOs with borderline pre-Navy credentials. It's not hard to draw a few straight lines using a ruler and measure the distance of the resultant vector with a compass and compare it to the scale. Also, IIRC the instructions on how to do it are ON THE MOBOARD PAPER.
And thanks to this invention called RADAR, you can be assured that skillset is about as useful as being able to pat your head while rubbing your belly.
The impression I get from this site is that SWOs can't figure out their follow-on training or if they even want to keep it. It keeps bouncing around from SWOS after commissioning to SWOS before the pin. So they do a lot of SWO-centric stuff because until very recently, that was the extent of their formal training before they got thrown to the wolves.
Also, not every class makeup is the same. We had more SWOs/sub/suppos than aviators.And if someone thinks that an aviator is going to remember doing moboards for 4 days after 16+ YCS, he's smoking some goooood crack. I caught a bit of crap for not knowing what a bollard was when practicing unassisted landings in a trainer, and that was less than 2 years out of OCS seamanship, so you can see how well that gets retained.
If moboards were the only thing you had to study, I'd bet that no one would have any issues. But you have to juggle it with the Nav charting, the knowledge portion of both classes, and Appendix B/C for ORLP.