Whether or not you like the NWU, the initial effort to reduce the seabag seemed like a decent idea to reduce the supply effort and make uniforms easier on the Sailors. The eventual outcome 10yrs later is a bit laughable and does seem very scattershot with no real goal in mind.
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Point Paper/Letter Re: Aviation Greens.
- Thread starter MasterBates
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They were very common at Whidbey back in the 90's (I left there in 95) but most didn't buy the jacket and just wore their leather jacket. No one batted an eye but that was back before the zero defect / PC mentality was totally entrenched. On a typical friday at the club they outnumbered khakis.
Personally, I blame the internet.
No.
One, it's amusing, even to a Marine outsider.
Two, the degree of retardation involved in the Navy uniform process absolutely blows my mind, and this ties it all together. In itself, the elimination of AWG was a perfectly rational decision. When it's put alongside adding SDKs, black-and-tans, and the umpteen camouflage patterns you all have, it shows complete schizophrenia from your leadership.
Like it or not, we're not all that much better...though, every once in a while, there is a ray of hope.
***The following represent my opinions, and my opinions only. They are not designed to eliminate our history or traditions - they are presented in the interest of streamlining our uniform budget (both for the Corps and the individual Marine), as well as bringing our uniforms in line with the realities of a 2011 Marine Corps.***
Service "A" uniform. While steeped in tradition (and, by far, the sharpest looking uniform we have), how practical is this uniform in 2011? We wear it pretty much only on the following occasions: When checking in to a new unit, when serving on a court martial (sometimes), CGI inspections, and on official visits to the White House. How many of the previous examples apply to every Marine? Again, while it is a uniform with an awesome history (and my personal favorite), the cost of procurement and maintenance is far higher than the utility we actually get out of it.
The Army got it right when they went to their "service-dress" uniform, combining two classes of uniforms. Why not follow their lead and maybe designate our Blue Dress "B" as a "Service" uniform (Class-A equivalent), wearing it when we'd wear our Service "A", and then just throw our medals on come Ball time? This would also serve to help Marines better maintain their Blues year round, thus avoiding the inevitable expensive pre-Ball rush on alterations, cleaners, etc.
Barracks Cover. Who actually wears this piece of headgear? I can count on exactly zero fingers how many times I've worn my green barracks cover since I commissioned, and on one hand the number of times I've worn it in my career (and those were at PME schools). Can't the garrison cover ("piss-cutter") be the standard?
All-Weather Coat. 'Nuff said. Why not allow male Marines to carry umbrellas for the very few occasions that this coat might actually be worn?
Service Sweter ("Wooly Pully"): See above. I could understand this sweater being useful decades ago when we wore Service uniforms every day, and worked out of Quonset Huts and squadbay barracks with no heat, but in 2011, most of us have relatively comfortable work environments...and only wear Service uniforms when we're on duty (or in trouble).
Those are just a few items of the many which could be streamlined, but represent moderate savings per Marine that add up very quickly when multiplied by the tens of thousands of Marines that require this issue (or officers that have to buy this "issue") every year.
Finally, while the Navy may have us beat as far as uniform implementation schizophrenia, we own the crown for (enforcing) the most uniform regulations...both official and unofficial. (I was one who cheered when CMC laid the smack down WRT the "sleeves up, sleeves down" pain we've put ourselves through for so many years, and mandated blue trousers for the Ball. Baby steps, but a step in the right direction.)
Anyway, time to throw on my bag and get my Chopper on.
holy disclaimer, Batman!
...and anytime you think you have uniform problems, just remember it could always be the Air Force.
Hell yeah! Don't wanna get "rightsized"...haha...
...and anytime you think you have uniform problems, just remember it could always be the Air Force.
Where is that from? Is that legit?
"Vice Space Marshal of the Galactic Federation reporting as ordered!"
jcj
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Regrettably, yes - it's the official USAF Band Uniform (confirmed over at BaseOps) - no idea why a 4-star was wearing it but it's a legit AF uniform.
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magnetfreezer
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2-3 years ago the AF decided they needed a new service dress and those were the choices. Fortunately they decided the implementation wasn't worth the money.
jcj
Registered User
The uniform the CSAF is wearing is the USAF Band Uniform. No idea why the CSAF was wearing it. The uniforms in the photo above next to Darth Vader were test uniforms that were not adopted.
see http://www.flyingsquadron.com/forums/index.php?/topic/18381-new-usaf-uniform/
