POTUS at Commissioning

[HAL Pilot]

^ Or

-Someone I respected swore me in

 

[phrogpilot73]

Since when is the Military NCO's and field grade? There are far better polls than the Military Times, but it's fairly close to what's already known. You don't see the disconnect between "majority of the military is very conservative" and a small subset of officers and enlisted being "far more conservative than liberal"? The senior leadership has tended to lean conservative. The military as a whole, however, is all over the spectrum, and assuming ideological conformity would be a dangerous mistake.

Good to know that someone who has finished TBS and flight school has a pulse on the ideological thinking of the entire military. I think you will find after spending more time in the military that yes, they are all over the spectrum - but amazingly, like this country - they tend to the right of center more than the left of center.

 

[1rotorhead]

Regardless of your political beliefs/leanings, seems ignorant not to respect a man who holds the highest office in the US and is also the CinC. It's not like the US is a monarchy and he was born into the job. He had to earn it. This may be off the reservation but during the cold war i'm sure a lot of people didn't like the russians but they respected them.

^ Or

-Someone I respected swore me in

 

[mmx1]

Good to know that someone who has finished TBS and flight school has a pulse on the ideological thinking of the entire military. I think you will find after spending more time in the military that yes, they are all over the spectrum - but amazingly, like this country - they tend to the right of center more than the left of center.

I don't really care to argue which way the military or the country leans; but we can at least agree that it's closely reflective of the country at large. And there's certainly by no means a majority of very conservative. Unless those are some really rosy glasses you've got on.

I won't assert that the country leans one way or another; it's close enough to even to be irrelevant which way it blows a particular day. But it says something that you would be so confident that it leans in your direction.

 

[Treetop Flyer]

I don't really care to argue which way the military or the country leans; but we can at least agree that it's closely reflective of the country at large. And there's certainly by no means a majority of very conservative. Unless those are some really rosy glasses you've got on.

I won't assert that the country leans one way or another; but it says something that you would.

How about a majority of conservative, unless you are high on crack?

 

[mmx1]

How about a majority of conservative, unless you are high on crack?

The Corps, probably (shocking!). The Marine Corps does not represent the whole of the military, especially culturally.

 

[Treetop Flyer]

The Corps, probably (shocking!). The Marine Corps does not represent the whole of the military, especially culturally.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/120857/conservatives-single-largest-ideological-group.aspx

You need to get your head out of the sand every now and then to breathe.

 

[RadicalDude]

 

[mmx1]

http://www.gallup.com/poll/120857/conservatives-single-largest-ideological-group.aspx

You need to get your head out of the sand every now and then to breathe.

And yet Democrats outnumber Republicans according to Rasmussen.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/mood_of_america/partisan_trends
So which means what?

We can throw polls at each other until we're tired. But what's most telling about the last few Presidential elections is how close they've been in the popular vote. That is something I'll stand behind; not which way it's leaning but that it's pretty damned close.

 

[phrogpilot73]

We can throw polls at each other until we're tired. But what's most telling about the last few Presidential elections is how close they've been. That is something I'll stand behind; not which way it's leaning but that it's pretty damned close.

You seem to think that "Republican" means conservative and "Democrat" means liberal. Let's see - last few presidential elections. You're right, pretty close. Because "conservative" Americans, regardless of political party had to choose between a relatively liberal choice, and a less liberal choice. There has not been a conservative candidate since Reagan.

 

[Treetop Flyer]

And yet Democrats outnumber Republicans according to Rasmussen.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/mood_of_america/partisan_trends
So which means what?

We can throw polls at each other until we're tired. But what's most telling about the last few Presidential elections is how close they've been in the popular vote. That is something I'll stand behind; not which way it's leaning but that it's pretty damned close.

The argument was about the percentage of conservatives, not of some political party. I might expect most people to understand that, but you are the one trying to argue that the military isn't mostly conservative.

 

[Flash]

You're certainly free with your experience (all what 2 years of it in training commands) and opinion. You're full of shit. Why don't you go sit in the corner and color since you have much less experience in this arena than say 90% of the members on this board.

Who pissed in your cornflakes this morning? I think he is generally about right, the officers I have served with are much more conservative than not but there is still plenty of diversity but the enlisted troops that I have served with were much more equally balanced and reflective of the country as a whole, including a lot of the ones that couldn't vote. The civilians I work with today are also pretty diverse, and most of them are former military. And surprisingly enough almost everyone at work couldn't guess my politics if they tried, I don't talk politics (AW is my outlet). So no, not necessarily full of shit.

 

[jtmedli]

You seem to think that "Republican" means conservative and "Democrat" means liberal. Let's see - last few presidential elections. You're right, pretty close. Because "conservative" Americans, regardless of political party had to choose between a relatively liberal choice, and a less liberal choice. There has not been a conservative candidate since Reagan.

I would definitely agree with what Phrog said here. I can't remember an election in my lifetime where there was a legitimate true Republican choice on the ballot. I consider myself a conservative and I agree with someone like Ron Paul much more so than Mitt Romney or any of the guys that the current Republican party is touting as their next big thing.

If you're watching the elections, then the thing would probably notice is that the Democrats and Republicans are pretty even as far as who garners more conservative/liberal votes, but the Independents are the ones who seem to consistently decide the vote.

 

[HeyJoe]

Gentlemen,

I am a USMC officer candidate on a SNA contract. I'm commissioning in August, and was recently presented the opportunity to have President Obama swear me in. Problem is, I make Rush Limbaugh look like Nancy Pelosi. I have heard that the majority of the military is very conservative, so I am looking for input. 20/20 hindsight for those of you who lean right, would you have had Obama, Clinton, Carter sworn you in if you had the opportunity?

Regardless of what any of us think or what any poll indicates. it's your ceremony so you should decide if it would mean anything to you. I guarantee that when you report to any unit, nobody will care who commissioned you.

 

[picklesuit]

Deror, for a case of beer and a pack of smokes I'LL swear you in...throw in a case of .357 ammo and I'll even get the words right...