PPL while in the Navy

[BACONATOR]

For me I have taken out student loans of about 60K to finish my degree and get my Commercial Multi. So would I be able to use any GI Bill stuff to pay back said loans. Seeing as I have already paid out of pocket?

Nope. Who would they cut the check to? YOU? Doubt it...

 

[Bonko]

Nope. Who would they cut the check to? YOU? Doubt it...

Although I would accept said check with great smiles. No I would prefer if they cut it to the people I got the loan from

 

[HH-60H]

Although I would accept said check with great smiles. No I would prefer if they cut it to the people I got the loan from

Nope, it doesn't work that way. Besides you would only qualify under the post 9/11 GI Bill which doesn't pay for flight school anyways.

 

[Bonko]

Nope, it doesn't work that way. Besides you would only qualify under the post 9/11 GI Bill which doesn't pay for flight school anyways.

Oh well, at least I know where 1/3 of my pay will be going for the next 6 years. wamp wamp wamp. Heck even if they threw in a hey kid here is 5k I would appreciate it.

 

[C420sailor]

Regarding the "validation" exams that allow a Naval Aviator to get his PPL/Instrument/Commercial---does this also apply to additional endorsements? For example, would you also receive endorsements for Complex and High Performance since you flew the T-34?

 

[insanebikerboy]

Just to be clear only the MGIB covers flight training, the post 9/11 GI Bill does not.

https://www.gibill2.va.gov/vba/vba....F9zZWFyY2hfdGV4dD1mbGlnaHQ*&p_li=&p_topview=1

Dang, there goes my multi-ticket. I guess I'll just use the post 9-11 to get my A&P instead

 

[HH-60H]

Regarding the "validation" exams that allow a Naval Aviator to get his PPL/Instrument/Commercial---does this also apply to additional endorsements? For example, would you also receive endorsements for Complex and High Performance since you flew the T-34?

I believe that a Commercial FW ticket includes complex and high performance, i.e. they are not separate endorsements.

 

[et1nuke]

That wouldn't happen to be the Avian Flight Center at Bremerton Nat'l Airport, would it?

Indeed it was. Did it while the boat was in overhaul at PSNS. Kinda sucked because we were in shiftwork much of the Summer and I'd still try to fly as much as I could. Sleeping and eating became less of a priority.

 

[MIDNJAC]

I believe that a Commercial FW ticket includes complex and high performance, i.e. they are not separate endorsements.

I got a commercial w/o high performance endorsement (flew a 200 HP Piper Arrow, and they changed the rule to >200 HP right before I got the ticket). It's just a notation in the back of your logbook, and IIRC not listed anywhere on the license itself. I know that is where my complex endorsement is listed.

 

[HH-60H]

I got a commercial w/o high performance endorsement (flew a 200 HP Piper Arrow, and they changed the rule to >200 HP right before I got the ticket). It's just a notation in the back of your logbook, and IIRC not listed anywhere on the license itself. I know that is where my complex endorsement is listed.

I got mine almost 10 years ago and I have no such endorsement, particularly since I didn't even have civilian log book until 2 years ago.

I'm a bit confused about what you are saying. Are you talking about a restriction? For instance my MEL is restricted to center-line thrust, but that's listed on the card itself.

 

[MIDNJAC]

I got mine almost 10 years ago and I have no such endorsement, particularly since I didn't even have civilian log book until 2 years ago.

I'm a bit confused about what you are saying. Are you talking about a restriction? For instance my MEL is restricted to center-line thrust, but that's listed on the card itself.

I got mine about 7 years ago so maybe roughly in the same timeframe. Not a restriction, just that complex and high performance endorsements are just that, written sign-offs in your logbook. Commercial license does not imply high performance or complex, and what I'm saying is that I technically never had a high performance endorsement (though clearly I would qualify for one now), though I did recieve a CSEL.

For reference:

5-264 HIGH PERFORMANCE AIRPLANE CHECK, TITLE 14 CFR § 61.31(F) . If a person has not logged flight time as pilot in command (PIC) of a high-performance airplane (an airplane with an engine of more than 200 horsepower) before August 4, 1997, the pilot must have received and logged ground and flight training from an authorized instructor in a high-performance airplane, or in a flight simulator or FTD that is representative of a high-performance airplane, and have been found proficient in the operation and systems of the airplane. Additionally, the person must have received a one-time endorsement in the pilot's logbook from an authorized instructor who certifies the person is proficient to operate a high-performance airplane.

5-265 COMPLEX AIRPLANE CHECK, TITLE 14 CFR § 61.31(E) . If a person has not logged flight time as PIC of a complex airplane (an airplane that has a retractable landing gear, flaps, and a controllable pitch propeller; or, in the case of a seaplane, flaps and a controllable pitch propeller), before August 4, 1997, the pilot must have received and logged ground and flight training from an authorized instructor in a complex airplane, or in a flight simulator or FTD that is representative of a complex airplane, and have been found proficient in the operation and systems of the airplane. Additionally, the person must have received a one-time endorsement in the pilot's logbook from an authorized instructor who certifies the person is proficient to operate a complex airplane.

FAA LINK

 

[Bonko]

yea I got a Commercial MEL, Complex comes with it but High Performance is a seperate thing. I am sure that you would get the High Permormance fairly early on.

 

[Gatordev]

I got mine about 7 years ago so maybe roughly in the same timeframe. Not a restriction, just that complex and high performance endorsements are just that, written sign-offs in your logbook. Commercial license does not imply high performance or complex, and what I'm saying is that I technically never had a high performance endorsement (though clearly I would qualify for one now), though I did recieve a CSEL.

For reference:


FAA LINK

So any recommendations on how to get that w/ out having to go fly w/ a CFI in a complex/high performance aircraft? My last flight in a high performance was 1 May 09 (logged and what not). I'm a qualified instrument checker and Natops instructor in model, but not a CFI. I'm guessing I can't endorse my own logbook. Can I go to a CFI and have him endorse my civilian logbook if I show him my military one?

The irony of that link is that I'm apparently qualified to give an instrument proficiency check even if I'm not a CFI. I'm no doubt over-simplifying what I read.

And while we're on the subject... Huggy, anything new on the Mil/CFI thing?

 

[desertoasis]

Can I go to a CFI and have him endorse my civilian logbook if I show him my military one?

That sounds logical...so it's probably not allowed.

 

[MIDNJAC]

So any recommendations on how to get that w/ out having to go fly w/ a CFI in a complex/high performance aircraft? My last flight in a high performance was 1 May 09 (logged and what not). I'm a qualified instrument checker and Natops instructor in model, but not a CFI. I'm guessing I can't endorse my own logbook. Can I go to a CFI and have him endorse my civilian logbook if I show him my military one?

I would be surprised if there was a CFI out there who wouldn't sign off for you. Even time in the T-34C from way back in your career should suffice I would think, let alone time you have in other HP/Complex aircraft since then. I actually need to do the same thing, and I was just planning on dropping into the FBO here in town and seeing if anyone would sign me off. I'll get back to you on whether or not that is kosher.