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Prey for DI?

Brett327

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Can't help but feel that something sinister is lurking within this statement.

;)
Not at all. :D We all deal withour angst in different ways. In the end, OCS is just a game one plays as a price of admission to our little club.
 

croakerfish

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I was the class heat-shield for the first few weeks. I kept getting out of step when we were marching around on the first Wednesday, got myself unscrewed that night in the p-ways but the damage was done. I got a LOT of extra attention, and except for that one day I was no worse than anyone else. Shit happens at OCS, and you have to deal with the shit in order to be the shit. Once it's over you may take a slight perverse pride in the extra hell that came your way. It inadvertently provided us with the most badass class coin and t-shirt design ever.
 

KBayDog

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Or PT then beer and ice cream

FIFY

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zipmartin

Never been better
pilot
Contributor
That's some great leadership right there. Too bad he doesn't yet rate a "night in the box."
I'm having a hard time containing myself. You just flamed a former VF CO who mentioned, what many of the old-timers wonder constantly about, concerning the thought process of the current generation of active and prospective crop of Naval officers. And he used humor doing it, and yet you blast him for stating what he and many others truly believe. This thread speaks volumes of the difference between the old days and today. We talk about the way it used to be and get blasted for what we say, yet it is OK for the younger guys to denigrate us for saying something that concerns us. And you wonder why there are some who don't bother to post anymore. The disconnect and disrespect grows wider and greater. Am I reading more into this than I should, or am I completely off-base?
 

SynixMan

Mobilizer Extraordinaire
pilot
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He's not in flight school yet. He can't get all soft from beer, pizza, and ice cream every night.
 

Criminal

God's personal hacky sack
pilot
You do know he was an actual drill instructor prior to his Hollywood career ???
Yes, pretty familiar with him. I like him, don't get me wrong. It is just not a good portrayal if you want to give this guy a heads up on what to expect.
 

yakboyslim

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I'm having a hard time containing myself. You just flamed a former VF CO who mentioned, what many of the old-timers wonder constantly about, concerning the thought process of the current generation of active and prospective crop of Naval officers. And he used humor doing it, and yet you blast him for stating what he and many others truly believe. This thread speaks volumes of the difference between the old days and today. We talk about the way it used to be and get blasted for what we say, yet it is OK for the younger guys to denigrate us for saying something that concerns us. And you wonder why there are some who don't bother to post anymore. The disconnect and disrespect grows wider and greater. Am I reading more into this than I should, or am I completely off-base?

I hope being part of the "new age" I can shed some light on this. We are the "information age". People nowadays are used to being able to figure something out, over the internet, before they ever actually do it. We don't ask friends if a restaurant is good, how to get there, and we certainly don't remember phone numbers or business hours. We look everything up on the internet. Why expect people to break from that when they are considering applying to the Navy?

Is it the best way? No probably not. Like many have said, it certainly makes the ASTB less of an aptitude test, and probably makes OCS a lot different. And it leads to people stressing about dumb things, either because they know they are coming when they shouldn't, or because they don't when they think they should be more prepared.

However, I do think people outgrow the need for internet gouge pretty quick. I don't see nearly as many posts for gouge from people after OCS. Everyone learns that face to face with a person a class or two ahead is the best gouge, and that you can't prep for everything, but you can do it without.

Having been in some of these guys shoes 3 years ago, I know what these "kids" are feeling when they come on asking for info on OCS. It's not that they are any less prepared for OCS, or need the gouge more, just that they are used to getting it everyday, in everything they do, within a few seconds. Also they are scared because "I didn't know" doesn't work as well as an excuse when all info is available to everyone all the time.

Just my take.
 
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