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Prior Service going to OCS

Bevo16

Registered User
pilot
I agree #2 is the way to go. I wonder if BEVO had a #1 prior. :)

I saw plenty of them fail.

My mentor was a CWO2 turned LTJG who made sure that my attitude was properly adjusted before going to ROTC. If that guy was able to swallow the fact that his 14 years of enlisted time +5 years of CWO time added up to being just another JO without a SWO pin on his ship, then I could play Mickey Mouse games in a ROTC unit for a few years. Sure, my few years of enlisted time made some of it redundant and annoying, but acting like I was SOOOOO different would not help anything. Everyone has to push the same direction to get anywhere.

My enlisted time helped me as a division officer, because I could relate to what the young guys were going through. It also put a little more coin in my pocket (still does). The E-time was a great experience, and I would not change my path if I had it to do over.

I was lucky enough to figure out early on (mostly by taking at face value by those who had already done it) that other than those few advantages, E-time does not count for diddly squat once you put bars on.

Good luck. It sounds like you have some growing up to do.
 

Bevo16

Registered User
pilot
Rockin' a pink polo with a popped collar, no doubt.

Kind of like this guy. Maybe that's DoDo.


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DoDo

New Member
No, it was the prior E turned pilot response. I know it isn't that obvious but you might want to give it a little more weight.

Your response to him made his point.

OBTW, what was he trying?


What weight? But again, I did ask for opinions.
 

ray25017

Member
To all you O's,

Thanks for letting me know I'm at least headed in the right direction...
After digging online and seeing the fun the candio's and the rest have with you (especially early on), I don't think letting them know I was a Marine will matter much. Now, I'm assuming being a Marine could matter if I show up looking like a fatty and don't have tight-ass drill (after all we Marines are supposed to remember 'inspection arms' until death)...

I saw someone post one time that everyone at OCS (from E-7s down to those right out of school) has the same experience as officers -- zero days. I think if I ever catch myself buckin' my chest out, I'm smart enough to remember that I can use my jarhead experience to help or I can use to be a friggin' jerk off and make enemies.

I'm looking forward to a cold winter in Newport (and hopefully a nice spring at NMITC).
 

DoDo

New Member
I saw plenty of them fail.

My mentor was a CWO2 turned LTJG who made sure that my attitude was properly adjusted before going to ROTC. If that guy was able to swallow the fact that his 14 years of enlisted time +5 years of CWO time added up to being just another JO without a SWO pin on his ship, then I could play Mickey Mouse games in a ROTC unit for a few years. Sure, my few years of enlisted time made some of it redundant and annoying, but acting like I was SOOOOO different would not help anything. Everyone has to push the same direction to get anywhere.

My enlisted time helped me as a division officer, because I could relate to what the young guys were going through. It also put a little more coin in my pocket (still does). The E-time was a great experience, and I would not change my path if I had it to do over.

I was lucky enough to figure out early on (mostly by taking at face value by those who had already done it) that other than those few advantages, E-time does not count for diddly squat once you put bars on.

Good luck. It sounds like you have some growing up to do.

I like that. It's always nice to have someone help guide you to make the right choices.

Bevo, this was what i was looking for, except your last sentence. Fly safe.
 

Brett327

Well-Known Member
None
Super Moderator
Contributor

Jesus fucking Christ.

I don't know why I'm wasting my time because your attitude sucks, but FWIW, OCS is nothing like boot camp - at all. Nothing you did in boot camp will prepare you for the intensity of OCS. Laughing at your DI will be the last thing on your mind because he has the power and inclination to cause you pain - lots of it. Trust me, you will be afraid of your DI - very afraid.

I went through OCS as a First Class, so heed my advice and don't go in there thinking it's going to be a cake-walk or comedy show because you've been in the fleet for a few years. You have zero experience as an officer - zero. Think about that the next time you're thinking about conjuring up some more snide remarks for officers who are trying to help you.

Brett
 

Bevo16

Registered User
pilot
I like that. It's always nice to have someone help guide you to make the right choices.

Bevo, this was what i was looking for, except your last sentence. Fly safe.

The last sentence is the one you need to pay the most attention to.

Do you really think that your snide attitude is lost on the people here? Do you think that is a good way to start out?

Remember, it's our club you hope to join. You have not even started the entrance exam.
 

Boomhower

Shoot, man, it's that dang ol' internet
None
I can use my jarhead experience to help

This is exactly right. Having been through Marine boot camp, you have a lot to offer the guys that have never been in the military. Make sure that you are squared away then take some time to help out a guy that may be struggling a bit.

You already know rank structure, how to shine shoes, and a lot of the other trivial shit that they teach at OCS, so you should be able to pass along some of the gouge that you learned in the Corps to some of your classmates.

You certainly don't need to puff your chest out about it but offer up some help to anyone in need.

Best of luck in Newport. You will do just fine. Your attitude rocks.
 

invertedflyer

500 ft. from said obstacle
What weight? But again, I did ask for opinions.

Dodo, I think this is what they are referring to. How could a fleet aviator with years of experience not have an opinion that carries weight?
And as Brett alluded to, standing infront of a Marine Drill Instructor is going to be very different from any experience you had at Air Force basic.

My advice, go into this thinking about the men and women standing next to you. Stop at nothing to help them and be a good team player. Stay humble and respect those that are trying to help.
 

DoDo

New Member
Dodo, I think this is what they are referring to. How could a fleet aviator with years of experience not have an opinion that carries weight?
And as Brett alluded to, standing infront of a Marine Drill Instructor is going to be very different from any experience you had at Air Force basic.

My advice, go into this thinking about the men and women standing next to you. Stop at nothing to help them and be a good team player. Stay humble and respect those that are trying to help.


My plan was to go in, keep a low profile, excel, pass along techniques if something arises, make friends, graduate, and then off to school. Im sure they'll be some stuff that raises an eye. Mostly cause i won't understand it at first. But i'll get it figured out. Im sure there are so things i might roll my eyes, but i'll get over it and get it accomplished, then move on.

But from the look of it, I can see where the priors can cause a problem if their full of themselves.

The purpose of my post was to understand the pro's and con's of being a prior service aviator coming into a new branch of service. The do's and don'ts.
Obviously, douchebag is not a set goal of mine; which is awarded by your peers. (Wasn't expecting it so soon) :) On a plus note, I do like everyone's posts.

Thanks
 
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