A DOR from training because you suck vs. completing OCS but getting NPQ and trying to come back under a different I don't believe is as negative esp if they get a good endorsement from the CO.
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Re-designating at OCS (VERY IMPORTANT)
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exNavyOffRec
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I would tend to agree, but it comes down to the senior member of that board, I know for a fact that at the time that there were a few senior members (not Pilot/NFO/SWO board) that would not re-select a DOR.
So are all of your waivers and medical results that were submitted to N3M which gave you the PQ then submitted to the OCS and NAMI docs for all future physicals? And they may then review those and choose to disagree with N3M? Sorry this may be a dumb question, but curious because I had been diagnosed with lattice degeneration by my civilian doc (which N3M waived). After receiving the PQ, I later saw a retinal specialist and he determined that I actually did not have lattice, but I never had to submit these results to N3M since I was already PQ. Just want to know if I should be armed with these exam results when I go to OCS?
Bring all the paperwork you have to OCS and the flight surgeon there will make his or her own determination on if your eligible for a waiver, or if you even need one for that matter.
FormerRecruitingGuru
Making Recruiting Great Again
If you read your N3M PQ letter, it says the following:
"Code N3M defers to the Naval Medicine Operational Training Center
Detachment, Naval Aerospace Medical Institute, (NAMI Code 342) for
suitability for service in aviation programs."
While you're physically qualified for military service, you still need to undergo a flight physical through NAMI which will take place in OCS.
"Code N3M defers to the Naval Medicine Operational Training Center
Detachment, Naval Aerospace Medical Institute, (NAMI Code 342) for
suitability for service in aviation programs."
While you're physically qualified for military service, you still need to undergo a flight physical through NAMI which will take place in OCS.
Apologies but I have actually never laid eyes on my N3M PQ letter. Thank you so much for this information and answering my question, I really appreciate it! Looks like I will have to bring all my paperwork with me.
FormerRecruitingGuru
Making Recruiting Great Again
It's part of the OCS checklist to bring all medical documents that you own.
navy2014
Member
I have received an N3M PQ letter but my OR didn't even know about it. Someone in the NRD told me about it. Any idea how I can get it? I don't think I have any other medical documents to speak of...
Edit: when I say I have received it, I mean NRD has received it. I have never seen it, obviously.
Far up thread, someone joked that all their aviation candidates were being NPQ'd for asthma, including early childhood "eh, maybe asthma" histories. Is this just an aviation thing? Thanks.
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Kees
SNA Select
Well, this thread is "comforting."
The whole commissioning process--app to ensign--seems like a lot to go through only to be sent packing if found NPQ for aviation at OCS. Not to mention the feelings of failure, embarrassment, etc. that go along with it.
It's not like a traditional enlistment where you take a simple test and see what you qualify for. Dudes work for years for an opportunity to become an officer. To have that taken away after you are already there would be a serious pshycological blow.
The whole commissioning process--app to ensign--seems like a lot to go through only to be sent packing if found NPQ for aviation at OCS. Not to mention the feelings of failure, embarrassment, etc. that go along with it.
It's not like a traditional enlistment where you take a simple test and see what you qualify for. Dudes work for years for an opportunity to become an officer. To have that taken away after you are already there would be a serious pshycological blow.
API will be a wake up call then.
Could be worse. You could be an Academy guy. If you're NPQ at OCS, they let you break it off right there. If you go through four years of Navy college only to wind up NPQ or just not get a pilot slot...
Nothing against the SWO's, that's just why OCS is better in this regard. If you can't do what you want from the start, you don't have to go down another pipeline. If you go ROTC or USNA, the Navy's getting their money back one way or another.
exNavyOffRec
Well-Known Member
Could be worse. You could be an Academy guy. If you're NPQ at OCS, they let you break it off right there. If you go through four years of Navy college only to wind up NPQ or just not get a pilot slot...
Nothing against the SWO's, that's just why OCS is better in this regard. If you can't do what you want from the start, you don't have to go down another pipeline. If you go ROTC or USNA, the Navy's getting their money back one way or another.
Funny thing is that SWO now has a higher GPA requirement than Pilot or NFO
RiseR 25
Well-Known Member
You could always run up and down the P-Way screaming "DOR DOR!" That will be sure to get their attention.
As a disclaimer no I would not advise it, especially in this economy.
FormerRecruitingGuru
Making Recruiting Great Again
Could be worse. You could be an Academy guy. If you're NPQ at OCS, they let you break it off right there. If you go through four years of Navy college only to wind up NPQ or just not get a pilot slot...
Nothing against the SWO's, that's just why OCS is better in this regard. If you can't do what you want from the start, you don't have to go down another pipeline. If you go ROTC or USNA, the Navy's getting their money back one way or another.
I've seen flight school folks from either USNA or NROTC who drop out and get out. Some might get IRR or SELRES if they so choose, but for the most part they walk away debt free. Seen it happen frequently.
I've heard it can happen, the biggest reason being if there's a military draw-down, like in President Clinton's administration for example. Maybe it's more frequent than I realized.
We had one candidate at OCS who was NUPOC, and when she DOR'ed, they told her that if she couldn't finish the program, her only alternative would be to enlist instead. Most of the priors were saying she should definitely try to stick it, out because if she couldn't get through OCS, boot camp wasn't gonna go any better for her.