Did you think I examined every one of your links? Or that I stopped looking once I found you were linking to BS?
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Road to 350: What Does the US Navy Do Anyway?
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Average Monke
A primate with internet access
All seven of them? Jeez what a workload. What's your actual point? Do you disagree with the premise? I have zero attachment to the links and am happy to let them burn with all of the other BS on the internet.
I stop when the BS starts.
Average Monke
A primate with internet access
Very profound. You should frame that quote and sell it online along with the "live, laugh, love" stuff
"Supposed to be"? According to what.. god?
The govt already decides who is worthy to vote. Felons, mentally ill, under age 18, non-citizens, citizens from territories... This is just one more limitation that prevents those who don't deserve or shouldn't have a vote from getting one.
Maybe I wasn't clear enough, but the idea is that you had to have contributed more to society than you took at least one year in a 4 year election cycle. That wouldn't exclude almost any of the situations you described. But if it did, and it was just a good person doing their best but couldn't contribute because they fell on hard times.. that's fine. I'm not saying we throw them in jail. I'm saying they don't get their individually pretty insignificant vote that cycle. That's a small price to pay for the fact that removing the vote from serial leeches would prevent the vote buying currently in play.
That said, if these people were voting for the party that I wanted to win, as they do for you, perhaps I'd find a way to justify it the way you are.
Maybe, some of the red states that take more from the federal govt than they put in should lose a Senator and some representatives. That seems like it'd only be fair according to your model. Mississippi and West Virginia are leaches, and don't deserve the same representation as net contributors....like California and New Jersey. ?
This thread was started to discuss the state of the Fleet and the ability of the Navy and Congress to expand it. It would be appreciated if we could get back to that on this thread.
We can always re-open Thunderdome.
We can always re-open Thunderdome.
Fleets and the shipyard support structure are incredibly expensive. We can either pay from it with debt, take the money from social programs, or increase revenue. 1) is not a great plan. 2) is not going to happen, because the ones with enough money to loot (social security and medicare) are overwhelmingly popular and have incredible positive effects on society.
I support reforms to accomplish 3), but those aren't incredibly likely. Weird how anytime someone says we need to balance the budget, the ONLY POSSIBLE ANSWER (tm) is cutting social programs.
If we're not willing to do some variation of 1-3 (massively oversimplyifing), then we need to reassess our strategic goals to accomplish the constraints our governmental system creates.
As a general rule, I don't take seriously anyone who doesn't have the basic decency to speak of human beings as human beings.
The budget deficit is currently $1.7T. If you know how to close that gap without cutting any social programs, drop me a line.
Several Constitutional amendments (15, 19, 24), and the Voting Rights act of 1965.
It’s widely agreed upon that voting is a civil right in this country. Why is that upsetting to you?
Voting is a civil right for the groups of people our laws grant that right to. I've pointed out that many groups are excluded from this right, though they live here. We do not have universal suffrage, as you implied.
You can virtue signal if it makes you feel better, but "leeches" clearly refers to their societal function. I am not equating these people to bugs. I am saying that if they don't contribute to society, but "leech" (a verb) off of it instead, then they should lose their right to vote.
Apologies, you're right.
What is your threshold? How will you define a "leech"? Is it if they earn less than $10K a year? $50K? $250K?
What if they're a full-time student?
What if they're a stay-at-home parent?
If I make twice the median salary, do I get to vote twice?
They were beyond fringe….they were make believe designed to troll the academic weakness of such studies.