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Road to 350: What Does the US Navy Do Anyway?
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Stealing this comment for my personal rolodex, Brett. A+ material.
He stole it....
It’s more than J2s. We live in a world where people have convinced themselves it’s ok and even good that the Texas National Guard was ordered to deploy to Chicago.
We are lost in the woods.
Succinctly put and I don't disagree.
Eventually we will enter a post-Trump era. It will be interesting to see where it ends up not just on the political spectrum, but the rhetoric/action spectrum if it skews "Red" again.
I don't disagree with your take, but the grammar Nazi/son of an English teacher in me can't let this go. There's two "T's" in Goose, boys.
Some good news is that the Navy has turned around recruiting shortages, meeting its quota in 2024 and have surpassed all goals for this year.
In total, the Navy brought in 44,096 future sailors in fiscal 2025, the service announced on Wednesday — nearly 3,500 more than its target of 40,600. That’s more than any year since 2002.
Navy hits historic recruiting numbers with more ads, tattoo approvals
Fiscal 2025 was the best recruiting year for the Navy since 2002. The head of Navy recruiting credited the feat, in part, to streamlining tattoo approvals.
www.navytimes.com
Pretty sure no, it is a callsign and not a designation.
Even with GovFact's left/center bias, this is one of the better articles I've read addressing the PCA.
The Thin Blue Line Between Soldiers and Police: Understanding the Posse Comitatus Act
In the United States, a single sentence of federal law stands between the citizen and the soldier. The Posse Comitatus Act represents one of the most fundamental principles of American democracy: the idea that the military, a force trained for war, should not be used to enforce domestic laws...
govfacts.org
Spekkio
He bowls overhand.
That's an extremely well thought out article, albeit verbose.Even with GovFact's left/center bias, this is one of the better articles I've read addressing the PCA.
The Thin Blue Line Between Soldiers and Police: Understanding the Posse Comitatus Act
In the United States, a single sentence of federal law stands between the citizen and the soldier. The Posse Comitatus Act represents one of the most fundamental principles of American democracy: the idea that the military, a force trained for war, should not be used to enforce domestic laws...
But it completely misses the point of the argument, which isn't at all rooted in whether Trump can legally send NG troops from Texas to Chicago. It's about racism and using the military to kick out those damn illegal aliens because the damn libs create safe havens for them in their cities.
Just like the abortion debate isn't about when a fetus is alive, it's about punishing women for having sex out of wedlock.
This is the thing. The Illinois National Guard should "deploy" to Chicago. That's the whole point. Citizens of the regional community helping the local community.
Texas might as well be the AD. They don't care about Chicago the way they would care about Dallas or Austin or Houston.
What do those number have to do with the concerns being discussed here? Hitting goals, great. People to put on the not-350 ships we have, also great. But to the issue at hand: whether or not those people understand the unique and privileged position of trust they've entered, and the supremacy of the union over a party/person...not sure what any specific number has to do with that.Some good news is that the Navy has turned around recruiting shortages, meeting its quota in 2024 and have surpassed all goals for this year.
In total, the Navy brought in 44,096 future sailors in fiscal 2025, the service announced on Wednesday — nearly 3,500 more than its target of 40,600. That’s more than any year since 2002.
Navy hits historic recruiting numbers with more ads, tattoo approvals
Fiscal 2025 was the best recruiting year for the Navy since 2002. The head of Navy recruiting credited the feat, in part, to streamlining tattoo approvals.
Clean kill
I won’t debate your final point because it’s a throwaway line, regardless of how one feels about the medical aspects.
But….as for the first…I call total partisan bullshit. There is only one question to answer here. Is it illegal to enter a sovereign nation as a non-citizen without permission? No other “if, but, when,” just the baseline question. If it is (and we all know it is illegal) then your “racist” line is just full of shit. It is the job of ICE to enforce immigration rules - the strength of that enforcement is up to each administration. Biden preferred a softer line and apparently his political party suffered for it. Trump may very well have jumped the shark for his hard line, thus his administration will suffer for it in the mid-terms as it did during his last administration.
Now, if a number of residents of City A are making it difficult for ICE to execute the law…then then the POTUS has every right to order the National Guard to that place to do two (and only two) things; (1) protect federal property and (2) protect federal agents in the execution of their duties. The guard can’t arrest anyone unless the state or county deputizes them so they typically don’t carry firearms. I’ve done this kind of duty twice, once at state level where I deployed to a city riot (the governor called us up) and once at the federal level where I deployed out of state (under Obama, if it matters).
Now, @Swanee is right, it should be the Illinois Guard going to Chicago (and no, the governor can’t decline) but that’s not what we’re discussing. On both occasions my soldiers represented just about every creed or color and they performed their duty legally and professionally, so your “racist” dog whistle just rings hollow and is the equivalent of saying that naval aviators are racist because they only bomb brown people who practice Islam in the Middle East - an equally empty and silly concept.
If the purpose is really to generate violence and disruption leading to emergency laws, then it is clear why you want outside occupying forces coming in and not your local community.
Nobody likes having foreigners imposing themselves on your turf. Direct line to violence.
I believe they do, especially with reference to young enlisted. Most of the partisan divide we are discussing here is from college graduates with careers who have easy access to a microphone. Enlisted crews will take orders from their junior officers who in turn take them from above. My concern isn’t with their political “feelings,” it rests with those above who I hope don’t ever venture into the idiotic, low brow stuff we see today from our supposed “best and brightest.”
Spekkio
He bowls overhand.
The general public angst against illegal immigration and support for militaristic enforcement would be a fraction of what it is today if the scapegoat wasn't brown-skinned people who speak English as a second language or not at all.
Almost 10% of illegal aliens are from Europe and Canada. I don't see any outrage about building a wall on the NY border to keep those darn poutine eaters out of our country. I don't hear anyone saying things like those damn illegal immigrants from Germany are driving wages down. When it comes to white people, it's generally accepted as "the cost of doing business" as a nation that built itself on opportunities for immigrants.
The racist aspect of the issue is what's preventing sensible, bi-partisan policies from being passed to address it.
You, being a college-educated person who actually researches issues, do not represent the average voter who supports Trump's policies. His entire platform is rooted in populism and his mk1 mod0 constituent cannot draw a logical legal line for his use of the NG in LA, Portland, and Chicago. That's not partisan BS, it's the demographic results of exit polls.
But then again, Trump's own AG is having trouble making arguments for Trump's policies because he keeps getting his peepee slapped by judges. And if we consider the full spectrum of response options available to the President to enforce immigration laws, federalizing the NG from a deep red state and invoking the insurrection act to deploy them into a blue state falls in the category of political theater.
Biden didn't just take a 'softer line.' He offered asylum and every nation south of Florida knew how to exploit it.
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