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running distances and pace at OCS

zarra182

Registered User
was just wondering what the distances are that i will run while at OCS.and what the paces are . Does everyone run together when you are not being timed or do they split it up.
 

joboy_2.0

professional undergraduate
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was just wondering what the distances are that i will run while at OCS.and what the paces are . Does everyone run together when you are not being timed or do they split it up.

From a friend who just graduated, apparently we wont be running much more than 3 miles. They split us up into different speed groups based on our IN-PRT score, and we'll pretty much run in these groups for the duration.
 

zarra182

Registered User
I am also wondering how the warm ups are. I would think that they would be really big in strecthing and warming up properly. so they can limit the injurys
 

CaptainRon

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pilot
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From a friend who just graduated, apparently we wont be running much more than 3 miles. They split us up into different speed groups based on our IN-PRT score, and we'll pretty much run in these groups for the duration.

In that case, what prevents people from slacking off on the first run? I'm assuming the DIs are easier on the people who show up in better shape?
 

Boats

New Member
No more than 4 miles, by ability groups. Warm up is a lap around the track doing funky excercises designed to reduce injuries. Stretch at night and before PT because during the stretch you are more worried about doing it properly to avoid the beating than stretching. Be the guy who slacks off on the run, we need entertainment in the pool.
 

badger16

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if you are running like 4 miles everyday...make sure to strech real well...this will prevent shin splints and overall soreness...streching the hamstrings are a must...this will prevent a lot of knee pain...i found this out from a doctor the hard way after running the most painful marathon in my life... i used to never strech and so my hamstrings were so tight and when i ran my marathon it caused extreme pain (knife stabbing my knee type pain) and so after the doc told me it all could have been prevented by streching...15 minutes before bed if you can...and 5-10 before you run...good luck
 

joboy_2.0

professional undergraduate
Contributor
In that case, what prevents people from slacking off on the first run? I'm assuming the DIs are easier on the people who show up in better shape?

I told my friend I'd be preparing to run in the 9-10 minute range for the IN-PRT. He SPECIFICALLY told me not to run as fast as I can because they want to see IMPROVEMENT and you could be rolled if you don't improve. So why kill yourself to get a 300, if you can pull a 270 and easily push it on the OUT PRT to 300.

Obviously you get less "attention" with outstanding scores, but who says you can't shoot for an excellent low on the IN PRT and make it easy on yourself.
 

scoober78

(HCDAW)
pilot
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Obviously you get less "attention" with outstanding scores, but who says you can't shoot for an excellent low on the IN PRT and make it easy on yourself.

Never went to OCS...but this is a lousy attitude...

Underperform in an attempt to game the system....great advice.
 

joboy_2.0

professional undergraduate
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Never went to OCS...but this is a lousy attitude...

Underperform in an attempt to game the system....great advice.

That's not my point. My point is that you will have plenty of stress there, so why kill yourself (and risk an injury) for the SECOND day there?! Just run as if you were practicing (as long as it's a decent time), score well and then show a steady improvement. If you do your absolute best on the in- PRT and you have a headache or a minor injury the day of your out PRT, would you really want to roll a class because you were outstanding when you got to OCS and had an inopportune bad day on the out PRT? I think not. I don't mean you should underperform, I just think its best to put some sort of thought into these things. My friend said that's pretty much how a good number of candidates did it.
 

joboy_2.0

professional undergraduate
Contributor
Barnard1425 said:
That's a terrible idea on many different levels.


As a current resident of OCS (C/LT, 17 more days!), I can tell you that the current running program is the result of a number of changes made in the past few years under our current CO/Director. Expect plenty of time devoted to warmup exercises, some of which are workouts in and of themselves. Classes are broken up into three groups for the runs themselves: rabbits, mids, and turtles. Runs focus on speed over distance. We never run more than 3-4 miles, though the pace for rabbits doesn't seem to slow beyond ~6:45/mile (at least for my class). Candidates are expected to show improvement, though with the intensity of the training it won't be a problem. Trust me, you WILL get faster. I came to OCS as a fairly serious runner and still got my a$$ kicked hard enough to shave serious time off my 'in' score. Of the ~230 candidates that I've seen in the classes ahead/behind mine only two have been rolled for lack of improvement in PT.

Put forward your best effort, because at the end of the day you'll need it.

Point taken. I just know that for me, if I try to run a LOT faster in an effort to get a new personal record, from time to time I may slightly pull a muscle or get a cramp that persists for a few days. I figured that 2 days into OCS this isn't a good idea. I don't mean I'd puposely run "slower", just that I wouldn't "overdo" it per se. Plus, after 2 days of intense stress and less than normal sleep, I'm sure pushing it will still yield a lower than normal time.
 

theblakeness

Charlie dont surf!
pilot
Obviously you get less "attention" with outstanding scores, but who says you can't shoot for an excellent low on the IN PRT and make it easy on yourself.


This is rediculous advice!! Is this really the quality of Officer Candidates that the Navy is pooling these days?!?!

give 110% at all times. Even if you are at the top of your game when you arrive, if you push yourself hard in PT (like you should) then your gonna see improvement by the time you graduate no matter what. In case you havnt noticed, the Military looks for quality, not necessarily quantity when selecting Officers. OCS is an opportunity for you to look at yourself in the mirror and improve yourself both physically AND mentally. If your gonna try an outsmart the system in the PT department, then me thinks that you might suffer from some moral issues that 13 weeks of OCS isnt gonna fix.

..just the .02 cents of a Marine Officer Candidate :watching3
 

joboy_2.0

professional undergraduate
Contributor
This is rediculous advice!! Is this really the quality of Officer Candidates that the Navy is pooling these days?!?!

give 110% at all times. Even if you are at the top of your game when you arrive, if you push yourself hard in PT (like you should) then your gonna see improvement by the time you graduate no matter what. In case you havnt noticed, the Military looks for quality, not necessarily quantity when selecting Officers. OCS is an opportunity for you to look at yourself in the mirror and improve yourself both physically AND mentally. If your gonna try an outsmart the system in the PT department, then me thinks that you might suffer from some moral issues that 13 weeks of OCS isnt gonna fix.

..just the .02 cents of a Marine Officer Candidate :watching3

you entirely missed the point of my post. I am in no way suggesting to shortcut or deceive anything in any way. I'm done with this thread because I can't seem to clearly convey what I mean without an onslaught of challenges to my quality or morality as a future naval officer.

I agree. Always give 110%
 

insanebikerboy

Internet killed the television star
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you entirely missed the point of my post. I am in no way suggesting to shortcut or deceive anything in any way. I'm done with this thread because I can't seem to clearly convey what I mean without an onslaught of challenges to my quality or morality as a future naval officer.

I agree. Always give 110%

I think I can see what he's saying, but the DI's have been around a lot longer and seen a lot more than some conniving candidate trying to sandbag the first run can pull off.

We had similar groups at the Academy and the running instructors would actually make the fastest people in each group move up to the next level, so even if they took it easy at the beginning they'd still get put in the correct group. I don't know if it's similar at OCS but I'd think the DI's would have some tricks up their sleeves.
 

thull

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Haven't been to OCS (yet) but if/when I get there, I think I'd have a really hard time not giving it my all from the second I hit the ground. fv$% it..give it what you got and let the chips land where they may.
 

thull

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I'm done with this thread because I can't seem to clearly convey what I mean without an onslaught of challenges to my quality or morality as a future naval officer.



toughen up man. I think you make a good point about being smart in one's physical exertion early on (from my experience in distance running for over 10 years), and am sure others see the logic in what you're saying, but the general mentality is to always give it your best above all other priorities. you may get injured, but you may not. such is the military.
 
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