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those that are Southern the flag does mean something. Something our ancestors stood up and fought for. Not racism or anything like that. It was something that was important to them in those days. We're proud of those that did stand up for what they believed in. Everyone is welcome to think what they like and you might think it is ridiculous and that's your right. All I was saying is that to true southerners we hate seeing the flag at KKK rallies and used the wrong way. That's all.
You don't have to agree or like it.
 
^ Do you listen to yourself talk? :confused:

Eddie had the right idea for this one.
 
Slammer2 said:
Wasn't that the thing where the confederate flag was 1/4 of the flag and they bit**ed about having that part removed like 2 years ago?
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that was georgia.

you can still see some "sunny lied" signs around if you look hard enough :p
 
gagirl said:
Not racism or anything like that. It was something that was important to them in those days. We're proud of those that did stand up for what they believed in. You don't have to agree or like it.
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Your right GA girl.... There are flags all over the world that used to stand for things people stood up for. Such as racism, genocide, etc. You don't have to agree to like this.
 
gagirl said:
those that are Southern the flag does mean something. Something our ancestors stood up and fought for. Not racism or anything like that.
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Nooo, the Civil War had absolutely nothing to with racism. The fact that slaves were of a darker complexion was merely a coincidence. :rolleyes:

That statement leads me to believe that the schools in the South teach the Civil War like schools in Japan teach WWII: we were attacked, we were right, Fort Sumter/Pearl Harbor, what's that? etc.

Now here's the irony. People who tend to wave the rebel flag speak about the war as being about state's rights. That is true, the South didn't want the federal government to legislate its agricultural practices. They wanted to leave it to the individual states. Now, many of those same people favor a Constitutional amendment banning gay marriage; they don't want to leave it to the individual states.

There, now the thread is back on topic. :icon_smil
 
gagirl said:
those that are Southern the flag does mean something. Something our ancestors stood up and fought for. Not racism or anything like that. It was something that was important to them in those days. We're proud of those that did stand up for what they believed in. Everyone is welcome to think what they like and you might think it is ridiculous and that's your right. All I was saying is that to true southerners we hate seeing the flag at KKK rallies and used the wrong way. That's all.
You don't have to agree or like it.
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All I'm saying is that before this controversy, nobody in the south gave a rat's @ss about the confederate flag or even gave it a second thought. The whole "but...it's our heritage" BS is just a poor excuse for a real argument in favor of keeping it around. For the record, I think the flag should be left alone, because the opposition doesn't have a leg to stand on either. I'd just like the b!tching to stop. Is this really the most important thing we can come up with to devote our energy to? Really? If you people are going to insist on non-stop public displays, how about focusing your efforts on something more useful or altruistic. How about a bake sale for the troops? I do loves me some cookies from time to time. :D

Brett
 
Ok people, we are straying a bit from the original intent?

Oh and any schwastikas posted for any reason will be deleted. Watch what you post we are approaching that line.
 
HueyCobra8151 said:
Yeah, no kidding, those guys fighting in Iraq are a punch of pansies; not like the heroes of yesteryear...


All sarcasm aside, don't turn the PC-failings of politicians into some sort of indictment against the military...the mission of the Marine rifle platoon is still to locate, close with, and destroy the enemy by fire and maneuver, and we are doing just that.
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Agreed...however, the CYA mentality is terrible.
 
Red2 said:
That statement leads me to believe that the schools in the South teach the Civil War like schools in Japan teach WWII: we were attacked, we were right, Fort Sumter/Pearl Harbor, what's that? etc.
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I went to school in Vermont, about as liberal as any place can be, and took a course on the Civil War, and the prof taught about the state's rights reason. So no, its not only schools in the South that teach that.
 
gregsivers said:
I went to school in Vermont, about as liberal as any place can be, and took a course on the Civil War, and the prof taught about the state's rights reason. So no, its not only schools in the South that teach that.
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Vermont allows the concealed carry of firearms without a license. This is not as liberal as any place can be. I know, I'm from Massachusetts :) But you're right, I had a good history teacher in high school and he taught states rights... I can't say the same for most people in MA though, that's for sure.
 
gregsivers said:
I went to school in Vermont, about as liberal as any place can be, and took a course on the Civil War, and the prof taught about the state's rights reason. So no, its not only schools in the South that teach that.
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Norwich isnt exactly indicative of Vermont, I'm sure the Prof at Groovy UVy probably had a different spin on things
 
Fly Navy said:
Vermont allows the concealed carry of firearms without a license. This is not as liberal as any place can be. I know, I'm from Massachusetts :) But you're right, I had a good history teacher in high school and he taught states rights... I can't say the same for most people in MA though, that's for sure.
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Well maybe its not the most liberal, but its one of the few places where high schoolers in the Capital city can throw rocks at a woman in a National Guard uniform and not get in trouble.
 
skidkid said:
Norwich isnt exactly indicative of Vermont, I'm sure the Prof at Groovy UVy probably had a different spin on things
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Methinks they wouldn't even teach a course on that subject at Groovy UVy. ;)
 
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