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Seeking advice on that first handgun or next weapon purchase? Ask AW!
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matthewARCH
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I got a Walther PK 380 for a CCW, back in November of last year. I've only shot it a few times, probably shot about 200-300 rounds through it so far. I haven't had it jam yet, but it hasn't been put under a lot of stress either. Also, I clean it very well... even if its just been sitting a while. It's a nice little gun, easy to carry and pretty easy to shoot. It's not too loud when it goes off, much like a whsiper compared to that .357.
The only problem I do have with it, is that the sights are not adjustable, and it has tendency to shoot low.. even from relatively close distances, like 25 Ft. My father tested it out for me one day while we were at the range, and it was shooting low for him also. He's Retired Air Force MP/special investigations, and was required to practice shooting a lot. Oh, and shells are really expensive for .380... They run about 15-20$ for 50 for low end shells. My hollow-points were about a dollar a piece. I'm not 100% but i think 45 shells and 9mm shells are a bit less expensive.
exNavyOffRec
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Pretty sure that was meant for me.... but she is one heck of a shot.
exNavyOffRec
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20 bucks is low for shells, the places that I shoot charge nearly 30 bucks for 50 rounds of .40 or .45
Ha ha actually it was meant to remind myself that I have a daughter older than her
matthewARCH
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.45's are cheaper here... I'm originally from Las Vegas, and everything is more expensive there. Shells were about 25$, here they're about $20. 45's are cheaper than that still, I think 15 dollars. This was my last trip to wal-mart. perhaps they had a special of some kind.
exNavyOffRec
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wow that is cheap, can't even get reloads for that cheap, even walmart here can't touch .45 for less than around 25 bucks a box
matthewARCH
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Yeah. I'm getting used to it myself. Certain things are the same price, like Gas Milk... ect.. but ammo is less expensive, cigarettes are WAY cheaper here... I think they're around 4 dollars a pack, in Las Vegas they were almost 7... Not that I'm advocating smoking but this would be a much cheaper place to pick up the habbit.
I got some drawing notebooks out here for about 4 dollars a piece, and they retail for around 16 dollars back in Las Vegas, so its a nice change.
What kind of .45 do you own? There's a nice colt .45 at the pawn shop down the street here. It's all metal which is nice, Polymer weapons feel awkward to me, unless the clips are fully loaded... they feel top heavy. I was thinking of picking it up, they want 600 for it, but I'm sure I could talk them down if I paid cash. Suggestions on that?
I got some drawing notebooks out here for about 4 dollars a piece, and they retail for around 16 dollars back in Las Vegas, so its a nice change.
What kind of .45 do you own? There's a nice colt .45 at the pawn shop down the street here. It's all metal which is nice, Polymer weapons feel awkward to me, unless the clips are fully loaded... they feel top heavy. I was thinking of picking it up, they want 600 for it, but I'm sure I could talk them down if I paid cash. Suggestions on that?
For 50? Yikes. I've found the difference in price of WWB .45 at the Walmarts in FL and CA to be within a $1 of each other (~$36/100). Surprsing since everything else is so damn expensive here in CA.
Last time I looked, I could still get quality 9mm cheaper online (barely), but Walmart always seemed to be the best for good .45 practice ammo.
exNavyOffRec
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I was just out and found the best deal is 250 rounds for 120.00, that is sale price.
The best deals are still the gun shows.
Ouch. Not here, except maybe surplus stuff, which I haven't had a need for the last time I went. I can't remember if you've ever said where you are, but that's painful.
I've been putting this off/mulling on this for months now, in large part because of how the price of .308 has been going up, but I'm trying to figure out which way to go for a nice precision distance gun. I just got a notice that Magpul is coming back into town next year and doing the distance courses they did here last year and it got me interested in persuing this again. I'm not sure I could actually get everything turned around in time for the PR1 class, but it's still rekindled the interest.
I'm trying to figure out which way is the "better" way to go, either a SPECIFIC bolt or gas gun in .308. First up, yes, I understand that a bolt will be inherently more accurate than an AR, but let's move past that. The AR I'm looking at is plenty accurate out of the box (GAP-10). Gun would be used for target shooting (paper and/or steel) for now (I hate shooting for groups) and depending on where I move next, maybe some tactical competitions, but I need to learn more about that. I'd love to grow into it. I'm sure it will eventually wear a can, but that's a ways off. I've held off on a .308 gun because getting easy access to the distances where it is needed is harder than with a .223 gun. It's tough to stretch the legs of my SPR-ish gun as it is.
So here's what I'm thinking:
Rem 700 5R in 20" and picking up an AICS stock and having someone swap it out.
or
GAP-10 in 20"
So far I've come up with the following Pros and Cons:
R700 Pros:
Still a sub-MOA to MOA out of the box. Probably better after the new stock.
Less expensive option than a comprable gas gun
I can learn another type of gun (don't have much bolt gun experience)
Cons:
I don't know crap about bolt guns, especially when introducing things like AI mags, length of (factory) ammo and feeding, etc.
GAP Pros:
I'm more familiar with shooting an AR style gun, even in the precision realm
Still wicked accurate before the shooter enters the equation (sub-MOA)
DPMS form factor for mags
Cons:
Expensive
Heavy (although that might not be too big a deal...depends on where you shoot)
Longer wait to obtain (not a huge deal)
Glass would probably be the same, either way I went (Razor HD or a NF 3-15).
I've scoured Google while thinking about this. I'm torn either way for the reasons above. Thoughts?
I'm trying to figure out which way is the "better" way to go, either a SPECIFIC bolt or gas gun in .308. First up, yes, I understand that a bolt will be inherently more accurate than an AR, but let's move past that. The AR I'm looking at is plenty accurate out of the box (GAP-10). Gun would be used for target shooting (paper and/or steel) for now (I hate shooting for groups) and depending on where I move next, maybe some tactical competitions, but I need to learn more about that. I'd love to grow into it. I'm sure it will eventually wear a can, but that's a ways off. I've held off on a .308 gun because getting easy access to the distances where it is needed is harder than with a .223 gun. It's tough to stretch the legs of my SPR-ish gun as it is.
So here's what I'm thinking:
Rem 700 5R in 20" and picking up an AICS stock and having someone swap it out.
or
GAP-10 in 20"
So far I've come up with the following Pros and Cons:
R700 Pros:
Still a sub-MOA to MOA out of the box. Probably better after the new stock.
Less expensive option than a comprable gas gun
I can learn another type of gun (don't have much bolt gun experience)
Cons:
I don't know crap about bolt guns, especially when introducing things like AI mags, length of (factory) ammo and feeding, etc.
GAP Pros:
I'm more familiar with shooting an AR style gun, even in the precision realm
Still wicked accurate before the shooter enters the equation (sub-MOA)
DPMS form factor for mags
Cons:
Expensive
Heavy (although that might not be too big a deal...depends on where you shoot)
Longer wait to obtain (not a huge deal)
Glass would probably be the same, either way I went (Razor HD or a NF 3-15).
I've scoured Google while thinking about this. I'm torn either way for the reasons above. Thoughts?
I'd go with the GAP. I'm waiting until I move out of Cali before I get some kind of AR platform. Hopefully they are still available.
Just bought a sub-compact Kel-Tec PF9 and already put 300 rounds through it without issue. I read they can be hit and miss in terms of reliability. It hurts the hand to shoot for a while for sure but very easy to conceal. I bought 2 eight round magazines that should help with the grip area. I carry HST 147gr JHP as Federal says the round opens at lower velocity so good for short barrels. The PF9 has a 3.1" barrel. Otherwise I use Speer Gold Dot 124+p for my other 9mm.
Shouldn't your post be here: http://www.airwarriors.com/community/index.php?threads/my-latest-purchase.28204/
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