Space Force Officer Relieved After Denouncing CRT/Marxism

[Brett327]

I addressed this. Heinlein requires some critical thinking and subtextual analysis. The new texts don’t. Also, as previously addressed, polling shows that people are more tolerant of these ideologies than ever before.

If you would humor me, I’d appreciate it you could find five minutes to watch that Bill Maher clip.

I watched it when it aired. I don’t find her to be a particularly honest broker, nor do I find her case persuasive. This all borders on paranoia. I understand that you feel things are different somehow, but I remain unconvinced. So, there you have it. ??‍♂️

 

[Python]

I watched it when it aired. I don’t find her to be a particularly honest broker, nor do I find her case persuasive. This all borders on paranoia. I understand that you feel things are different somehow, but I remain unconvinced. So, there you have it. ??‍♂️

Fair enough. But it is not just me and it is not GOP radicals. This has caused concern for a large amount of middle of the road Americans.

As you mentioned that reading these texts on the CNO’s list to give you a better perspective and relationship with your sailors and Officers, I’d ask you to consider that reading the posts in this thread will offer you the same insights into what many of your sailors and Officers are feeling as well.

 

[wink]

I think probably every prognosticator was called a chicken little, and every warning of a slippery slope ignored until there was a pile at the bottom of the slope and no one knowing how they got there.

I see slippery slope warnings dismissed all the time, especially here, as naïve and folly. Not very many significant changes in human society have happened in one fell swoop. It is gradual. I think that is good for society. Many argue that Roe v Wade got ahead of a trend already underway in our society, and is why it is still controversial today. An evolutionary process was, well, aborted, by the Supreme Court. But, the slippery slope is also bad for society. A change can occur so slowing and covertly that it goes unnoticed by the masses busy paying a mortgage and finding a good preschool. When the change is slow and minute, even petty without context, it is easy for people desiring the change to divert attention from what is the end state. To dismiss the slippery slope is myopic and unwise.

 

[Python]

I think probably every prognosticator was called a chicken little, and every warning of a slippery slope ignored until there was a pile at the bottom of the slope and no one knowing how they got there.

I see slippery slope warnings dismissed all the time, especially here, as naïve and folly. Not very many significant changes in human society have happened in one fell swoop. It is gradual. I think that is good for society. Many argue that Roe v Wade got ahead of a trend already underway in our society, and is why it is still controversial today. An evolutionary process was, well, aborted, by the Supreme Court. But, the slippery slope is also bad for society. A change can occur so slowing and covertly that it goes unnoticed by the masses busy paying a mortgage and finding a good preschool. When the change is slow and minute, even petty without context, it is easy for people desiring the change to divert attention from what is the end state. To dismiss the slippery slope is myopic and unwise.

Perfect. This is exactly what I’ve been trying to say, but wasn’t articulate enough to type.

 

[Flash]

Reread about the survey in that first paragraph. Exactly the same that I heard. Please don’t tell me “it’s just a survey”. An honest and unbiased survey is “just a survey.”

There is no such thing as "just a survey". Fair, balanced, scientific or not, they cost money and are commissioned for one purpose, to be used. Results from that survey, like so many others, will be used to craft and/or justify some sort of change. They will trot out the results and use the media to promote what they say the people want, or what they need because their answers prove a need. Some times it is scientific and fair, sometimes it is not. But it gives a veneer of democracy and scientific analysis. I think it highly unlikely someone has just trashed the survey in question. Time will tell.

How many here took that survey? How many have taken other surveys sent out by Fairfax County Public Schools? How many here have seen proposals concerning Fairfax County schools come and go without any change, sometimes in response to residents disagreeing with said proposals? How many here have kids who are actually Fairfax County school students? Nope?

I can think of one other forum member who could answer yes to those questions off the top of my head he hasn't posted on this thread yet. But yeah, lecture on.

 

[Flash]

True, but aside from the period in time I don't know what it had to do with my reminder about little remembered or understood facts of the "red scare." That was the subject. I am sorry it took over 150 posts before you found a very tenuous connection to a post to blast Nazis. Feel better?

I didn't realize I had to stick to your narrow topic or that I could only respond to certain posts but I figured after all the hyperventilating on this thread about Marxism/Socialism/Communism it might be apt to point out that fascism and other right wing ideologies with popular and public support have also been, and remain, a threat to this country along with the fearsome commies.

I think probably every prognosticator was called a chicken little, and every warning of a slippery slope ignored until there was a pile at the bottom of the slope and no one knowing how they got there.

I see slippery slope warnings dismissed all the time, especially here, as naïve and folly. Not very many significant changes in human society have happened in one fell swoop. It is gradual. I think that is good for society....But, the slippery slope is also bad for society. A change can occur so slowing and covertly that it goes unnoticed by the masses busy paying a mortgage and finding a good preschool. When the change is slow and minute, even petty without context, it is easy for people desiring the change to divert attention from what is the end state. To dismiss the slippery slope is myopic and unwise.

Yet after decades of claiming that one political party is trying to engineer the Marxist/Communist takeover of this country we aren't any closer to that supposed goal than when folks started claiming it all those years ago. But it's coming, just after the next election! Or maybe it is more like lying for years about voter fraud and malfeasance culminating in claiming an election was stolen from you without a shred of evidence, then you end up a bunch of idiots violently storming the seat of government seeking to overthrow a democratically elected government.

Slippery slope indeed.

 

[Python]

I didn't realize I had to stick to your narrow topic or that I could only respond to certain posts but I figured after all the hyperventilating on this thread about Marxism/Socialism/Communism it might be apt to point out that fascism and other right wing ideologies with popular and public support have also been, and remain, a threat to this country along with the fearsome commies.



Yet after decades of claiming that one political party is trying to engineer the Marxist/Communist takeover of this country we aren't any closer to that supposed goal than when folks started claiming it all those years ago. But it's coming, just after the next election! Or maybe it is more like lying for years about voter fraud and malfeasance culminating in claiming an election was stolen from you without a shred of evidence, then you end up a bunch of idiots violently storming the seat of government seeking to overthrow a democratically elected government.

Slippery slope indeed.

I don’t know any right wing or fascist ideologies that have become mainstream and entered schools with open arms. Not that I deny those ideologies exist, nor do I deny that they are abhorrent.

I also don’t think (m)any individual on this site at least thinks this was engineered by the Democratic Party. Endorsed by, yes. Engineered? No. As far as the timeline…this level of adoption among the public, as well as infusion into most major institutions of the country, is relatively recent. Yes, there have been American socialists and communists in the past, and they were considered fringe. Again, CRT is much more mainstream and polling shows Marxist ideas are much more tolerated than in the past.

I do not think the election was stolen. I do think the people storming DC were idiots.

Slippery slope indeed.

 

[SlickAg]

I hope I didn’t just get flagged for extremism

Pentagon Plans to Monitor Social Media of Military Personnel for Extremist Content

The military has previously balked at surveilling service members for extremist political views due to First Amendment protections.

theintercept.com

This is totally fine guys. This is normal and will be good for the military and the country. Just don’t say or “like” or “share” anything a radical leftist may find objectionable online.

I wonder if they would’ve found some of the things active-duty service members said about their Commander-in-Chief from 2017 to 2021 or so “extreme”.

Also, would calling fellow service member with different political beliefs than you “cultists” be considered acceptable?

 

[HAL Pilot]

I wonder if they would’ve found some of the things active-duty service members said about their Commander-in-Chief from 2017 to 2021 or so “extreme”.

Maybe we should point them at Brett's posts and see. J/k...maybe....

(I'm not doing this - because I'm sure someone will think I am.)

 

[SlickAg]

Maybe we should point them at Brett's posts and see. J/k...maybe....

(I'm not doing this - because I'm sure someone will think I am.)

They wouldn’t be interested in those posts anyway; they’ll only be looking for the “wrong” kind of posts.

In fact, anyone posting or supporting Orange Man Bad talking points will probably be put on the short list for bigger and better things!

Sidenote: the fact that they’re using contractors to spy on servicemembers in order to end around their Constitutional rights is bloodcurdling.

 

[JTS11]

Oh good, it looks like someone has found out he doesn't have to post exclusively in the Covid thread.

To be fair, it could be Big AW restricting access. I'll keep an open mind.

 

[SlickAg]

Oh good, it looks like someone has found out he doesn't have to post exclusively in the Covid thread.

To be fair, it could be Big AW restricting access. I'll keep an open mind.

So you DO read them! I’ll be sure and tag you in all of them just to make sure you get them. (I know sometimes the words might get a little difficult to understand, but just throw me a PM if you get too confused.)

 

[JTS11]

So you DO read them! I’ll be sure and tag you in all of them just to make sure you get them. (I know sometimes the words might get a little difficult to understand, but just throw me a PM if you get too confused.)

No, I actually haven't figured out how to scrape the bottom of the Covid internet, so I enjoy reading about you're random Twitter graphs and posts about Dr. Fauci.

I really do learn a lot. Keep them coming.

 

[SlickAg]

No, I actually haven't figured out how to scrape the bottom of the Covid internet, so I enjoy reading about you're random Twitter graphs and posts about Dr. Fauci.

I really do learn a lot. Keep them coming.

 

[wink]

Yet after decades of claiming that one political party is trying to engineer the Marxist/Communist takeover of this country we aren't any closer to that supposed goal than when folks started claiming it all those years ago. But it's coming, just after the next election! Or maybe it is more like lying for years about voter fraud and malfeasance culminating in claiming an election was stolen from you without a shred of evidence, then you end up a bunch of idiots violently storming the seat of government seeking to overthrow a democratically elected government.

Slippery slope indeed.

Indeed. It is decades of vigilance and clarion calls that have thwarted the advance of those ideals. No pile at the bottom of that slope yet. You are welcome. ?