Stupid Questions about Naval Aviation (Part 3)

[Brett327]

If you could provide three tenets of leadership what would they be?

1. Don't be an asshole to new posters on AW - be nice, because that may be someone's first impression of a Naval Officer!
2. Don't be creepy to female posters on AW, because nobody likes that and it's unprofessional AF.
3. Don't forget to smell the roses, because they smell pretty good.

 

[ea6bflyr]

If you could provide three tenets of leadership what would they be?

Have you asked your recruiter? ?

 

[FormerRecruitingGuru]

Have you asked your recruiter? ?

He did, and said to ask James Carville himself.

 

[taxi1]

Are you guys seriously trumpeting Admin O as upwardly mobile?

If you can write the good words with clarity and speed you will be loved and remembered by the boss.

Writing well, I mean really well, is super highly valued and unfortunately a moderately rare skill.

 

[SynixMan]

If you can write the good words with clarity and speed you will be loved and remembered by the boss.

Writing well, I mean really well, is super highly valued and unfortunately a moderately rare skill.

Not at all disagreeing, and I recently spent the last year preparing (mostly written, some PPT briefs) products for O6-O9 audience.

But squadron Admin O is, at best, a junior Department Head job. Every Officer should know a fucked up admin department is 10 minutes away from grinding a squadron to a halt. It’s still admin, and you’re going to make your play for Skipper as the OPS/MO.

 

[taxi1]

Not at all disagreeing, and I recently spent the last year preparing (mostly written, some PPT briefs) products for O6-O9 audience.

But squadron Admin O is, at best, a junior Department Head job.

I agree (former CO). But it is a great chance for the new DH to make that strong first impression. Or not.

Clear writing = clear thinking = key skill in ops or maint.

 

[Gatordev]

I agree (former CO). But it is a great chance for the new DH to make that strong first impression. Or not.

Clear writing = clear thinking = key skill in ops or maint.

Completely agree. Of course, the better your writing is, the more work you make for yourself. So there's that. Another benefit, if you want to call it that, of being an Admin O is you have a pretty good idea of what's happening in the squadron since 99% of the paperwork ultimately goes through you. Other than some NCIS crap and an O being kicked out (and even then I got some of the paperwork), everything else came across my desk.

Then again, you also get to see a bunch of the Chief drama (if that's a thing in your squadron), which was exhausting, although much more so for my CO.

 

[Brett327]

It’s still admin, and you’re going to make your play for Skipper as the OPS/MO.

Not sure why you're hung up on this. Nobody has claimed otherwise.

 

[AIRMMCPORET]

As a guy who travels quite a bit and does all my own DTS, the amount of work that takes for an entire squadron is staggering.

DTS, now there’s something I truly hated, and don’t miss.?

Luckily I had an excellent admin department.?

 

[pilot_man]

DTS, now there’s something I truly hated, and don’t miss.?

Luckily I had an excellent admin department.?

As much as I hated DTS previously I got pretty good at it in my last job, I would love to be able to use it now during my 9 month PCS with i-stops. Since I can’t use it I’ll be hoping PSD doesn’t screw me over. What are the odds???‍♂️

 

[Scimitarze]

Maybe this is too niche, but where does the "skids are assholes" joke hail from that I've seen on here a few times? Is that a fleet thing or an AW meme?

 

[Treetop Flyer]

Maybe this is too niche, but where does the "skids are assholes" joke hail from that I've seen on here a few times? Is that a fleet thing or an AW meme?

Skids are assholes

 

[Griz882]

Skids are assholes

Have a friend who was a skid pilot. He used to say his guys (Scarface I think) said...”We might hate each other, but we hate you more.”

 

[Meyerkord]

How does one become an aviation detailer, and where does that fit into the overall career progression as far as timing and on/off path? Are most of these guys HR lat-transfers or is it's some kind of shore/disassociated tour?

 

[MIDNJAC]

How does one become an aviation detailer, and where does that fit into the overall career progression as far as timing and on/off path? Are most of these guys HR lat-transfers or is it's some kind of shore/disassociated tour?

Post Department Head aviation shore tour. It's about as "on track" as a senior O-4 can be for command (essentially guaranteed to make operational XO/CO).