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OCS SWO Board 10 Feb 20

1812TC

1812TC

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nia.maye said:
This is know and I’m sure that there are statistics to prove this theory I just wish i worked in operations and research analysis so I could see the numbers. Honestly this sound more like a goal than reality. Those of us with 15 + years in feel alone most of our boot camp crew is gone, which makes me feel like the likelihood of someone doing 30+ years is to low, so low that this shouldn’t be the reason why,
Let’s look at 2 people:

23 year old no kids no spouse joining out of college
35 year old with family with 12 years of enlisted service applying for a commission

which one is more likely to do 10+ years of commissioned service?
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Exactly how I feel. The sooner the DoD allows me to commission the sooner ill serve, or try to, to 30. If not afforded that opportunity I’ll be E-9 before my 20 and I’ll be like thanks but no thanks and retire. Where as they expect me as an E9 to provide guidance to officers and potentially serve 26-30 but I simply won’t do it. Not worth it when I have General Schedule knocking on my door already.
 
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NCCGT

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1812TC said:
Exactly how I feel. The sooner the DoD allows me to commission the sooner ill serve, or try to, to 30. If not afforded that opportunity I’ll be E-9 before my 20 and I’ll be like thanks but no thanks and retire. Where as they expect me as an E9 to provide guidance to officers and potentially serve 26-30 but I simply won’t do it. Not worth it when I have General Schedule knocking on my door already.
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I keep hearing people on here talking about older applicants (we’ll say 30+ years old) and the prior enlisted people and how the boards are worried about them being the ones to retire at 20.

As someone pointed out, who is more likely to leave at or even BEFORE they get to 20? Someone with a family and is older and more entrenched in this career path or someone who is in their late 20’s/early 30’s with no attachments yet and could easily switch careers?

Then there are those who are prior service but are applying as civilians. I have no data to back me up, but I’d be willing to bet that someone who has decided to return after already getting out is more likely to stick around longer than others. Whatever their motivation for returning may be.
 
1812TC

1812TC

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NCCGT said:
I keep hearing people on here talking about older applicants (we’ll say 30+ years old) and the prior enlisted people and how the boards are worried about them being the ones to retire at 20.

As someone pointed out, who is more likely to leave at or even BEFORE they get to 20? Someone with a family and is older and more entrenched in this career path or someone who is in their late 20’s/early 30’s with no attachments yet and could easily switch careers?

Then there are those who are prior service but are applying as civilians. I have no data to back me up, but I’d be willing to bet that someone who has decided to return after already getting out is more likely to stick around longer than others. Whatever their motivation for returning may be.
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exactly. I want to continue to serve for my country. But at the same time I want to do more and more, I want to be challenged, I’ve already hit the pinnacle of my enlisted career, it’s no longer a challenge now it’s just disseminating my lessons learned to peers, subordinates and advising JO’s. I can have the same effect now in the civilian world. So if I’m not going to be challenged I’m going to get fat and nasty lol. If given the opportunity to continue to lead, challenge and excel I’ll stick around until you force me out. My father served 30 years as a mustang. I am whole heartedly committed to 30+ as well, I just need the opportunity.
 
R.Dougie

R.Dougie

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Let’s look at 2 people:

23 year old no kids no spouse joining out of college
35 year old with family with 12 years of enlisted service applying for a commission

which one is more likely to do 10+ years of commissioned service?
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I see this a lot. The 20 something JO makes LT and gets out.
 
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NCCGT

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“I see this a lot. The 20 something JO makes LT and gets out.”

Anybody who has served sees this all the time. Whether they want to accept it is another thing.

As was noted earlier, I also want to see the research/stats planning and HR are using to determine which demographics are at higher risk of exiting early vs going 20+ years
 
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caliktk

Active Member
R.Dougie said:
Let’s look at 2 people:

23 year old no kids no spouse joining out of college
35 year old with family with 12 years of enlisted service applying for a commission

which one is more likely to do 10+ years of commissioned service?
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I see this a lot. The 20 something JO makes LT and gets out.
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In my opinion the 35 year old is more likely to do 10+ as officer.
My situation non-prior 32 with waiver. Did civilian job for 8+ years, not satisfied, wants to do something bigger and have impact. My plan is to do 20+ and hopefully have at least 3 bars on my shoulders when I get out.
I might be the exception to most cases but that's just my opinion
 
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