T-45C’s are grounded again

[PhrogPhlyer]

we’ve been down this exact same path here

Is any of the data points needed for a public review of MV-22, or any other Mil aircraft readily available other than through a FOIA request? It is one thing to be told "don't look behind the curtain, nothing there to see" and to actually validate that statement. And no, I am not looking for a smoking gun, rather I am looking to gain personal and public confidence in an aircraft. At least for me, and I may be the only one in the world with such sentiment, I do not have a strong confidence in the MV-22. I am hoping that will change. And I apologize to the thread readers for highjacking the thread for what I thought was just a snarky response I had made.

 

[ea6bflyr]

Is any of the data points needed for a public review of MV-22, or any other Mil aircraft readily available other than through a FOIA request? It is one thing to be told "don't look behind the curtain, nothing there to see" and to actually validate that statement. And no, I am not looking for a smoking gun, rather I am looking to gain personal and public confidence in an aircraft. At least for me, and I may be the only one in the world with such sentiment, I do not have a strong confidence in the MV-22. I am hoping that will change. And I apologize to the thread readers for highjacking the thread for what I thought was just a snarky response I had made.

Here’s a year old article with some info on the MV-22. It’s not all the answers, but it is some data to start with.

 

[Gatordev]

@PhrogPhlyer if you go to the V-22 thread, I believe the mishap rate is posted in there by actual V-22 people. Spoiler alert, it's not any worse than rotary. I can't remember, but there might be another CV-22 thread, as well, after the AF mishap where it's mentioned.

"V-22" will be too short for the AW search engine, so try google (type the following exactly... airwarriors.com: "v-22 mishap rate")

 

[kmac]

I’ll be interested to see if the CMV-22B drives down that mishap rate even further. While I understand they‘ve had low hour gearbox issues like the others, the type of flying and operating environment should help, right?

 

[ChuckMK23]

I’ll be interested to see if the CMV-22B drives down that mishap rate even further. While I understand they‘d had low hour gearbox issues like the others, the type of flying and operating environment should help, right?

Given the current divert requirements I would not think they are doing much "COD" operations currently and probably staying busy just maintaining currency and proficiency.

 

[MIDNJAC]

Given the current divert requirements I would not think they are doing much "COD" operations currently and probably staying busy just maintaining currency and proficiency.

They are flying regular COD ops now. There aren't C-2s at NASNI anymore either. Your news is very last summer Unless all the C-2s are deployed. But the VRC-30 hangar is totally empty/abandoned, so I imagine not.

I kinda like the ice cream paint job. It kinda makes me, while not wanting to actually fly on any crazy whirly bird contraption, want to boop it on the nose.

 

[robav8r]

I had several V-22 flights to/from USS BOXER while I was in command in San Diego. It is a very "weird" A/C to fly in compared to a COD or rotary wing A/C, the transition from hover to forward flight kinda goes against all the in-flight sensations one might be used to in other, legacy platforms. Lots of moving pieces and parts . . . .

 

[JTS11]

I had several V-22 flights to/from USS BOXER while I was in command in San Diego. It is a very "weird" A/C to fly in compared to a COD or rotary wing A/C, the transition from hover to forward flight kinda goes against all the in-flight sensations one might be used to in other, legacy platforms. Lots of moving pieces and parts . . . .

I think you're right...tbh, I never liked flying in the back of any mil ac (mine included).

 

[kmac]

I had several V-22 flights to/from USS BOXER while I was in command in San Diego. It is a very "weird" A/C to fly in compared to a COD or rotary wing A/C, the transition from hover to forward flight kinda goes against all the in-flight sensations one might be used to in other, legacy platforms. Lots of moving pieces and parts . . . .

The first time I took off in the back of a V-22 from NASNI, it was not comfortable. That high pitch and slow speed was too reminiscent of a stall situation.