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The end of NATO?

Randy Daytona

Cold War Relic
pilot
Super Moderator
The shortsightedness of not providing aid to countries and stabilizing areas of the world is one I don’t understand from the MAGA camp. In case you haven’t noticed immigration flows and instability in that region have a large impact on trade routes and commodities that flow downstream into the US economy. Particularly the Med, Red Sea, and Cape areas. Checkers level decision making by the idiots surrounding POTUS.

I guess it means fuck all given the recent Tariff news. Looking forward to getting that factory job when I retire... Oh wait, probably not because our demographic situation and ongoing boomer retirement means we can barely replace our current labor force. Time to start building AI infused robotic manufacturing. 4D level chess move by the Elon, Zuck, Cook, and Bezos crowd.
Our demographic situation is better than most, if not all, of the major, and medium powers.

Most of the trade in the areas you mentioned primarily benefits the Europeans. They have navies complete with aircraft carriers- they can look after it. Our Navy needs to get healthy after being overstretched for the last several decades.

As for factories, interesting take from Ross Douthat at the NYT this morning:

 

taxi1

Well-Known Member
pilot
As for factories, interesting take from Ross Douthat at the NYT this morning:
To convince companies to build factories that take many years to construct, you have to convince them that the tariffs are never going away. That they can depend on them. That you aren’t going to negotiate.

“I wouldn’t want to be the last country that tries to negotiate a trade deal with @realDonaldTrump,” the younger Trump, who serves as vice president of the Trump Organization, wrote Thursday morning on the social platform X.

 

sevenhelmet

Quaint ideas from yesteryear
pilot
We renegotiated the world order post WWII, and arguably became the most powerful country in human history.

Along comes this latest iteration of American extravagance, who- in his blind arrogance- has decided that history makes us all “suckers and losers”.

I’m not buying it. This is about a power trip and DJT’s hurt feelings. He’ll willingly destroy the economy and our standard of living as a flex. The greatest nation on Earth, intentionally sabotaged by an obese old man with a massive inferiority complex and Daddy issues.
 

Faded Float Coat

Suck Less
pilot
Almost as much dignity and respect as our previous president showed during the dignified transfer of the servicemen killed from his negligence

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The "like" on this is as predictable as the day is long... and dude...... for the 1069th time, there was A LOT of bad shit in the previous admin, and everyone before it. Not sure anyone other than you and @robav8r keep erecting such specious straw men here. It's quite revealing. Go ahead and roll in with TDS and MOP bullshit - that's also revealing.

NATO and Europe.... four of our servicemen died in the theater...
 

Randy Daytona

Cold War Relic
pilot
Super Moderator
We renegotiated the world order post WWII, and arguably became the most powerful country in human history.

Along comes this latest iteration of American extravagance, who- in his blind arrogance- has decided that history makes us all “suckers and losers”.

I’m not buying it. This is about a power trip and DJT’s hurt feelings. He’ll willingly destroy the economy and our standard of living as a flex. The greatest nation on Earth, intentionally sabotaged by an obese old man with a massive inferiority complex and Daddy issues.
Before I give a reply, what comments do you have on the following video?

I have mentioned Peter Zeihan numerous times in the past, and although I do not agree on everything he says, I do think globalization as a security arrangement is an interesting perspective- and one that has outlived its usefulness following the fall of the Soviet Union a generation past.

 
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