The impossible to make separate thread (Ghost F-35)

[Notanaviator]

I won't speak for anyone else. But from an outsider looking in, it appears that someone has found themselves a spotlight, and that person really wants relevance. Whereas there are some folks who used to have relevance (and then they retired, which means they should enjoy their twilight years in peace fishing, or skiing, or smoking brisket) who are now looking for a spotlight.

It's that perfect PFC to stripper marriage. Except now it's a FOGO to a Social Media Influencer. It's still the same fucking thing- someone who has a little money to a whore who wants to spend it.

As a guy who sort of passively followed him early for the previously mentioned sea stories, I really started bristling when he got into the CW Lemoine bullshit “let’s break down this mishap report” stuff. Worst example was from the B-17/P-39 mishap. Here was the screengrab he used to publicize that video ‘breakdown.’ There’s a good chance there’s folks who’ve just breathed their last or waiting to in frame. Real snuff film shit. Appalling.

 

[nittany03]

As a guy who sort of passively followed him early for the previously mentioned sea stories, I really started bristling when he got into the CW Lemoine bullshit “let’s break down this mishap report” stuff. Worst example was from the B-17/P-39 mishap. Here was the screengrab he used to publicize that video ‘breakdown.’ There’s a good chance there’s folks who’ve just breathed their last or waiting to in frame. Real snuff film shit. Appalling.

Jesus tapdancing Christ. What a psychopath. I'm reminded of being deployed during the WPL mishap when I woke up, did my thing, ambled to the ready room, and saw the SAR plot on ship's TV. I thought someone was running an exercise until someone clued me in.

Who in this business has not lost multiple colleagues, if not friends? I count myself as lucky as one can be that in my personal case, I've only lost who I'd have considered the former, not the latter . . . but it still fucking hurt each time.

That screenshot is flat-out psychopathic behavior, and I don't use the term lightly.

 

[GroundPounder]

Jesus tapdancing Christ. What a psychopath. I'm reminded of being deployed during the WPL mishap when I woke up, did my thing, ambled to the ready room, and saw the SAR plot on ship's TV. I thought someone was running an exercise until someone clued me in.

Who in this business has not lost multiple colleagues, if not friends? I count myself as lucky as one can be that in my personal case, I've only lost who I'd have considered the former, not the latter . . . but it still fucking hurt each time.

That screenshot is flat-out psychopathic behavior, and I don't use the term lightly.

I've been the police for 33 years in a medium sized city, and if you can die / get killed in any way, I've seen it. I don't think it's harmed me, but at the same time I don't think it's good for you either. If I never had to see another dead person, it would suit me just fine.

I can't figure out why anyone that does not have to see violent death, chooses to do so. YouTube is rife with airplane crash, car crash, helo crash, racing crash fatality videos that get high view counts. Wanting to watch deathporn videos is strange.

 

[ChuckMK23]

Quick thread jack -

Has there been a radical change in the Navy/DoD social media policy? "Growler Jams" - a current T-45 IP and former Growler dude (perhaps a friend of @Brett327 ) has a great YouTube channel that is well respected in the "Creator" community. He had been doing well ad revenue wise.

He recently updated everyone of his video postings of him flying the Growler - demonetizing/removing revenue generating ad content and he removed the "buy me a beer" button where he was collecting a nice income stream.

What do you guys think?

 

[ea6bflyr]

Quick thread jack -

Has there been a radical change in the Navy/DoD social media policy? "Growler Jams" - a current T-45 IP and former Growler dude (perhaps a friend of @Brett327 ) has a great YouTube channel that is well respected in the "Creator" community. He had been doing well ad revenue wise.

He recently updated everyone of his video postings of him flying the Growler - demonetizing/removing revenue generating ad content and he removed the "buy me a beer" button where he was collecting a nice income stream.

What do you guys think?

He probably got smacked down from Big Navy for monetizing his videos.

 

[ABMD]

Quick thread jack -

Has there been a radical change in the Navy/DoD social media policy? "Growler Jams" - a current T-45 IP and former Growler dude (perhaps a friend of @Brett327 ) has a great YouTube channel that is well respected in the "Creator" community. He had been doing well ad revenue wise.

He recently updated everyone of his video postings of him flying the Growler - demonetizing/removing revenue generating ad content and he removed the "buy me a beer" button where he was collecting a nice income stream.

What do you guys think?

Clearly not a Speedie guy

 

[Brett327]

Quick thread jack -

Has there been a radical change in the Navy/DoD social media policy? "Growler Jams" - a current T-45 IP and former Growler dude (perhaps a friend of @Brett327 ) has a great YouTube channel that is well respected in the "Creator" community. He had been doing well ad revenue wise.

He recently updated everyone of his video postings of him flying the Growler - demonetizing/removing revenue generating ad content and he removed the "buy me a beer" button where he was collecting a nice income stream.

What do you guys think?

I know Pail. Good guy. Using in aircraft footage without going through proper authorization process is a problem. Monetizing that content, even after release authorization, is ethically dubious, at best. Financial gain due to one’s military position is contrary to both the law, and policy.

 

[Gatordev]

Using in aircraft footage without going through proper authorization process is a problem.

I haven't watched his channel, but his videos pop up in my feed from time to time. I've been wondering how he's lasted this long without getting talked to.

 

[taxi1]

. Financial gain due to one’s military position is contrary to both the law, and policy.

Don’t SEALs all have NIL deals?

 

[Swanee]

Quick thread jack -

Has there been a radical change in the Navy/DoD social media policy? "Growler Jams" - a current T-45 IP and former Growler dude (perhaps a friend of @Brett327 ) has a great YouTube channel that is well respected in the "Creator" community. He had been doing well ad revenue wise.

He recently updated everyone of his video postings of him flying the Growler - demonetizing/removing revenue generating ad content and he removed the "buy me a beer" button where he was collecting a nice income stream.

What do you guys think?

There is a dude from my era that was putting videos out, but wasn't making money. Chances are if you saw a cockpit video of a Hornet landing on a boat it was No Pro. Good dude. Huge into general aviation, The RV (the airplane... not cousin Eddy), and the warbird community. Flies for Delta now, but I think he's still a reservist flying with a VFC squadron somewhere.

 

[Brett327]

I haven't watched his channel, but his videos pop up in my feed from time to time. I've been wondering how he's lasted this long without getting talked to.

TBH, most people aren’t getting any of that flavor of ethics training unless they’re COs, so there’s probably a lot of folks out there who don’t understand just how restrictive things can be.

These days, bringing a go pro into a jet is a big no no unless it’s for an approved purpose, then it gets reviewed. It’s just to easy it inadvertently catch a classified display format.

 

[hdr777]

I haven't watched his channel, but his videos pop up in my feed from time to time. I've been wondering how he's lasted this long without getting talked to.

He has. He used to have a bunch of T-45 videos from recently, but he had to take them down/stop filming them. He used to monetize them, then I think just asked for beer money donations in the caption, then stopped. I think he puts a disclaimer that all the videos are old/before policies changed, and he just does voiceovers on them.

"These videos are not monetized. DOD service members are not authorized to solicit or accept gifts because of their official position. My "buy me a beer" account is no longer active." His one T-45 video left has this "This jam was approved for release by the CNATRA PAO."

 

[Gatordev]

These days, bringing a go pro into a jet is a big no no unless it’s for an approved purpose, then it gets reviewed. It’s just to easy it inadvertently catch a classified display format.

That's what I was getting at more than the monetization side, though that seems to be another issue. Before I retired, people stopped taking pics in the Romeo except for me, it seemed (I'm exaggerating, but it became much less common). I was always careful and there wasn't specific guidance. Once its classification level changed (or I guess its security level), and everyone got a Faraday bag, it was the nail in the coffin.

Shooting video in a Growler, even several years ago, seems on a whole other level. But I also can understand that the jet community gets less wrapped up in the minutia than the helo world can, at times.

 

[nittany03]

He has. He used to have a bunch of T-45 videos from recently, but he had to take them down/stop filming them. He used to monetize them, then I think just asked for beer money donations in the caption, then stopped. I think he puts a disclaimer that all the videos are old/before policies changed, and he just does voiceovers on them.

"These videos are not monetized. DOD service members are not authorized to solicit or accept gifts because of their official position. My "buy me a beer" account is no longer active." His one T-45 video left has this "This jam was approved for release by the CNATRA PAO."

So we have a guy who could be a recruiting asset get shut down by the bureaucracy for taking vids in an unclassified Goosehawk cockpit. I get the whole security aspect of fleet jets, and I get that it's a potential distraction, but it seems to me the whole situation could be ORMed better than just "no." Especially in an era where literally no one is meeting their recruiting goals.

It's a social media 2.0 age. We need accessible and unofficial (or at least quasi-official) sources on whatever platforms the kids hop to from decade to decade. Otherwise they're only ever going to get the firehose of negative publicity about military service. You'll get killed, you'll get raped, only go there if you have no chances, blah blah blah.

 

[Swanee]

So we have a guy who could be a recruiting asset get shut down by the bureaucracy for taking vids in an unclassified Goosehawk cockpit. I get the whole security aspect of fleet jets, and I get that it's a potential distraction, but it seems to me the whole situation could be ORMed better than just "no." Especially in an era where literally no one is meeting their recruiting goals.

It's a social media 2.0 age. We need accessible and unofficial (or at least quasi-official) sources on whatever platforms the kids hop to from decade to decade. Otherwise they're only ever going to get the firehose of negative publicity about military service. You'll get killed, you'll get raped, only go there if you have no chances, blah blah blah.

We need non cringy tiktok and Instagram folks.