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The Naples incident/how to ruin your career before it's started/make others suffer

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Godspeed,

Thanks for the warning and stories. Those examples just make my stomach turn. I can't comprehend how their CoC's couldn't save them.
 
I can't even believe what I'm reading right now, I just spoke to my friend who's still in A-pool and all I can say is WTF????

Are they teaching stupid at the Academy nowadays? I'm sick of them (not all of them just a vast majority it seems) screwing things up for the rest of us. Not only are they mostly the ones involved with the negative incidents that happen here, but looking at most of them they have the least professional appearance, trashy looking uniforms (have you heard of shirt-stays?), and overall poor demeanor and physical fitness. I hate to stereotype a group of my peers but when a senior 0-3, almost 0-4, sits you down as a group (referring to a month ago) to tell you to get your sh*t locked on and some Ensigns openly gaff him off and laugh it just says everything. I'm willing to bet some of these idiots were among those that did so. I hope this serves as a wake up call for A-pool as a whole and any of you Academy guys reading this that are coming down in May and beyond. I know P-cola is your first taste of freedom and independence for many of you, be responsible and don't F it up. /end rant

I'm so glad I'm in IFS right now and don't have to deal with this clusterf%ck for another month. And no more brown shoes? Jesus H......
 
Mr. Blonde said:
Are they teaching stupid at the Academy nowadays? I'm sick of them (not all of them just a vast majority it seems)
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Im not sure I agree with this. I would be willing to bet that the majority of Academy grads are good eggs. There are rock stars and douchbags from every source.

That being said, it seems that there are some environmental elements which may make USNA graduates slightly more likely to make a mistake like this. We think of incidents like this and the golf cart/Waffle House incident from a couple months ago and instantly want to group all boat school grads into one category, but lets also remember that it was an NROTC kid who drove his lexus into someones house a few years back. Im sure we can come up with a few other anecdotal examples for NROTC and some for OCS.

Maybe USNA does have a higher propensity for this sort of thing, but I would be willing to bet that if we looked at a statistical analysis it would only be slightly higher than the other commissioning sources.
 
I'm just venting my frustrations on what I've seen since I've been here (which pretty much correlates to what I heard before I got here). I said they're not all bad, and I'm not speaking just to drunk/stupid incidents, it goes to other things such as professional appearance, there are a few Canoe U. grads who seem to be living by a different set of grooming standards and dress codes. And like I said it's not just me when one of the senior LT's sits you down as a group for a discussion on your behavior (not sure if you were there for that). My cousin is graduating from Annapolis in May and heading down here, he's locked on and I'm going to impress upon him to try and set the example for his fellow classmates, just like I'll continue to try and set the example for everyone else around me that I can.
 
You bouys (sic) crack me up sometimes .... what w/ all your concerns, troubles, brown vs. black shoes and "what should I do's" .... :D
When I was in the "Great Pool" waiting to start VT-1 @ Saufley ... our days usually revolved around:

PT in the AM at the gym down by the LEX on the quay ...



Followed by an "all-in" game of Tactics II in the BOQ lobby; the outcome of which COULD have changed the world as we knew it ...



Followed by a 60-70 MPH drive home to arrive by 1500 hours and see if General Hospital's Dr. Steve Hardy was/was not the father of Nurse Jessie's baby ...



Ahhhh ... the simpler times. :)
 
Mr. Blonde said:
I can't even believe what I'm reading right now, I just spoke to my friend who's still in A-pool and all I can say is WTF????

Are they teaching stupid at the Academy nowadays? I'm sick of them (not all of them just a vast majority it seems) screwing things up for the rest of us. Not only are they mostly the ones involved with the negative incidents that happen here, but looking at most of them they have the least professional appearance, trashy looking uniforms (have you heard of shirt-stays?), and overall poor demeanor and physical fitness. I hate to stereotype a group of my peers but when a senior 0-3, almost 0-4, sits you down as a group (referring to a month ago) to tell you to get your sh*t locked on and some Ensigns openly gaff him off and laugh it just says everything. I'm willing to bet some of these idiots were among those that did so. I hope this serves as a wake up call for A-pool as a whole and any of you Academy guys reading this that are coming down in May and beyond. I know P-cola is your first taste of freedom and independence for many of you, be responsible and don't F it up. /end rant

I'm so glad I'm in IFS right now and don't have to deal with this clusterf%ck for another month. And no more brown shoes? Jesus H......
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I'm glad ROTC and OCS Ensigns are so squared away.
 
Pretty clearly, whether you agree with it or not, the upper management/leadership is taking a very firm stand against brushes with the law. So if you want to avoid similar actions being taken against you, avoid said brushes, even if that means altering your what you do in your off time. Common sense would tell you to stay away from things like 100MPH tickets, too, even if there is no alcohol involved. IMO, it's just not worth the chance.
 
Many people said:
yadda yadda yadda Academy kids are social retards hate hate hate Annapolis sucks
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Hmm . . . let me search through my personal memory file. There was the guy who got separated from his buds at Seville, passed out, and woke up in the BEQ quad naked. Academy? Nope.

The one who got too fat for standards while in A-pool and got NPQed. Academy? Nope.

The one who fell asleep at the wheel and took out a gas station on Barrancas. Don't think that was an academy alum, but it was after my time.

Add in the Lexus Incident already mentioned. Bottom line is that the 1 percent of Ensigns who shouldn't have been commissioned have been doing stupid crap at least as long as I have been in the Navy. Your commissioning source means nothing once you put those gold bars on your collar. You will find that by the time you make JG, you'll have no idea who the "Academy guys" are versus the ROTC/OCS types unless you ask. And no one gives a crap.

Dirtbags are dirtbags regardless of their commissioning source. If USNA was putting out trash in the eyes of COs, Commodores, and above, I'm sure Big Navy would be fixing the issue promptly.
 
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