The SHOW: Airlines still a "good gig"??

[Jim123]

I heard somebody say that powered lift experience on your app hurts your score.


(This is how smoke pit rumors get started.)

 

[HokiePilot]

My friend, a marine UH-1 pilot with a little bit of C-12 time, just got picked up for an AF C-17 transfer.

I have another friend who is a Marine F/A-18 WSO got picked up for AF UPT.

They are taking people.

 

[Fallonflyr]

Last month, the AF expanded it's program to bring retirees like me back on active duty. Significantly expanded it. As in "get back in the cockpit" expanded.

I called less than 24 hours after the announcement was made, because working with the guys that I used to work with; and flying the U-2 and T-38... well, it just doesn't get any better than that.

As a bonus... I computed that I'd roughly make and additional $1000/month in retirement if I went in for just 24 months. Holy shit, this is great!! I then spoke to the AF: they said I was eligible!!

However, Mrs Huggy was a bit more pragmatic. She pulled out a spreadsheet with my income, and what I'd make if I went back in. Or, rather, what I'd lose if I did this.

The $$$ amount was significant. HUGE. Six-figure huge. Even with the $1000 a year extra in retirement, I cannot justify it... (yet).

So... I'll ponder this while I'm paddle boarding in Kaua'i tomorrow.

As a side note, that will mean that I've will have paddleboarded in Hilo, Maui, Kona, and Lihue in a span of 9 days.

So, until I figure out a way to economically get back into the U-2 Program, I'd say the airlines are a pretty good gig. The lifestyle gives me the ability to do some really fun aviation things that I wouldn't normally get to do.

I loved my time in the military, and wouldn't change the past even if I could. I'm also happy to talk about the airline experience with any of you. Drop me a note with your phone number if you want to chat.

Yea, but all those Hawaii layovers start to get old after a few years?

 

[FrankTheTank]

Still a good gig? Spent my 4th of July at Yankee Stadium on my 35 hour layover in Manhattan! I’m gonna go with yes.. Still good. Crazy thing is I don’t even fly again till Friday night, just a deadhead tomorrow to Oakland (1st class.. of course).

 

[Deleted member 24525]

I heard somebody say that powered lift experience on your app hurts your score.


(This is how smoke pit rumors get started.)

is this where all the Osprey guys start whining about how if the Harrier pilots' hours count for the airlines then theirs should too?

 

[ChuckMK23]

My friend, a marine UH-1 pilot with a little bit of C-12 time, just got picked up for an AF C-17 transfer.

I have another friend who is a Marine F/A-18 WSO got picked up for AF UPT.

They are taking people.

How is life post IOE?

 

[zippy]

is this where all the Osprey guys start whining about how if the Harrier pilots' hours count for the airlines then theirs should too?

But they do now... think that started late last year/early this year.

 

[Deleted member 24525]

But they do now... think that started late last year/early this year.

Wow. good for them, but wow.

 

[sevenhelmet]

Gouge: Shared this in another thread, but as of about a month ago, the F/A-18E/F Super Hornet is no longer considered a centerline thrust platform. For those who haven't flown GA in a while (or at all), that means the Vmc demo is no longer required for your ATP checkride.

 

[scoolbubba]

Are the legacy guys still hosed by the lack of a published vmca in their natops?

 

[sevenhelmet]

Are the legacy guys still hosed by the lack of a published vmca in their natops?

The gouge I was given was specifically for the Super Hornet, so if all your -18 time is in the A-D Hornet, I'd still plan on needing a Vmc demo during your ATP checkride. If anyone has heard differently, please pass it on.

The good news is it's a straightforward maneuver that only takes a minute on the check, so the difference is fairly negligible in terms of price to get a "full up" ATP.

 

[Treetop Flyer]

I don’t think any hornet dudes were “hosed” by the centerline thrust restriction. It’s just a demo on the checkride. Add this to the list of headscratching FAA decisions. It might be a good idea for a super hornet dude to ask for a VMC demo anyway if their experience has only come from centerline thrust* aircraft.

 

[scoolbubba]

The gouge I was given was specifically for the Super Hornet, so if all your -18 time is in the A-D Hornet, I'd still plan on needing a Vmc demo during your ATP checkride. If anyone has heard differently, please pass it on.

The good news is it's a straightforward maneuver that only takes a minute on the check, so the difference is fairly negligible in terms of price to get a "full up" ATP.

I have 0.0 hours of hornet time. Was asking more for my own curiosity than anything.

 

[ChuckMK23]

Wow. good for them, but wow.

Vmc demo required for the PL dudes “fer sure”!

 

[Deleted member 24525]

Vmc demo required for the PL dudes “fer sure”!

Well, first of all, they don't take off and land like an airplane.
Additionally, as I understand it, if one engine fails, the props are interconnected through a shaft that allows the good engine to move both props...obviously with less power. So not only do they land and takeoff like a helicopter, but they don't have asymmetric thrust.

Please correct me if I am incorrect about the asymmetric thrust, but that is what was explained to me