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USMC Aviator Chances and Probably a Few Questions You've Seen Alot...

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phrogpilot73

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rmp459 said:
I do not want to do the best I can and end up flying outside of my top few choices...
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Got some advice for you - make your "top few" choices everything but the KC-130J. Otherwise, you could end up disappointed.

What everyone else has said is good info. We can't give some arbitrary number because it's different every week. I busted my ass in flight school, and two weeks prior or after my selection date in HT's, I would have been number two in the class. It was full of a bunch of brainiacs (all but two of us were on Commodore's list), so I ended up second from the bottom. You never know, because you're joining the largest group of type-A personalities you have ever seen...
 
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jtmedli

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rmp459 said:
Anyways, my more specific questions are:

- What percentage of individuals who actually get a Flight Contract actually get to fly fixed wing? I am not opposed to rotor craft, but would prefer a fixed wing assignment...

- I would have preferred PLC, but is my only option if I go the officer route (due to having already graduated college) to go to OCS, then TBS? I don't believe PLC is an option for me any longer, but after reading the advantage to going through the USMC OCS, I can't really imagine doing it any other way.

- How specific can flight contracts be? Is it strictly a commitment to get you into initial flight training and it is up to you individually to end up at the top of the class and where you want to be?

- How competitive does it get at the later stages of flight training? Will I be competing with a large group of individuals on the level of Naval Academy Grads?

Thanks for any advice/information anyone might have in advance...
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Look man...I'm not going to completely flame you, but there is an order to things. You become an Officer through OCS. Then you drink the kool-aide at TBS (learn what it is to be a Marine). Then you go to flight school and become a pilot.

If all you want is to fly then go check out the Air Force. The Marine Corps stresses leadership like nothing else I've ever seen. The USMC actually cares whether you're a competent leader or not so you better want it bad enough to bust your ass and show them you are. If you're afraid of competition then you've already given up and probably won't make it. You will always be in competition with someone. Get used to it.

Don't be the guy who walks around showing everyone your bottom lip cause you didn't get to fly hornets or don't think you will. That's a recipe for a crappy career. Like the other posts said, if you really care about being a Marine then you will care more about the A/C saying 'Marines' on the side than anything else.
 
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I have serious doubts about your motivation, rmp. What ever happened to kids who just want to fly and will do anything to attain that goal? Honestly, I saw Top Gun when I was 9 and that was all the motivation I needed.
Aviators do not need a roadmap for their entire life or career, just getting in and staying in the cockpit is good enough. So you wanted to fly military your entire life, but didn't enlist, try for the Academies or ROTC at whatever school you attended.
Sounds like the dream was never that important for you, my friend.

As Louis Armstrong said, "Man, if you gotta ask you'll never know."
 
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slug said:
I have serious doubts about your motivation, rmp. What ever happened to kids who just want to fly and will do anything to attain that goal? Honestly, I saw Top Gun when I was 9 and that was all the motivation I needed.
Aviators do not need a roadmap for their entire life or career, just getting in and staying in the cockpit is good enough. So you wanted to fly military your entire life, but didn't enlist, try for the Academies or ROTC at whatever school you attended.
Sounds like the dream was never that important for you, my friend.

As Louis Armstrong said, "Man, if you gotta ask you'll never know."
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I've been dreaming about flying since I was a little kid too, and only now I am finally in a position to start attaining my goal. Not everyone in this life has the money/time/health/opportunity/support/capability to get "there" right off the bat, as everyone's circumstances are different. You don't know rmp, you don't know me, and I don't know you, but you mention Top Gun...kill yourself. :sleep_125 :)
 
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Pilot Wannabe

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Damn everyone is so touchy. That is some serious brainwashing saying you care more about the Branch of service than the job you will be doing in it. I doubt most of you would have still shipped off to OCS if you hadn't been awarded that aviation contract. I know some probably wouldn't have even taken that air contract if they didn't think they could realistically get the aircraft of their choice.

I'm about to get a whole lotta shit for this post, but honestly I feel that the guy is asking valid questions on a forum with people who are supposedly in the community, but only give smart ass comments without too much good information. While there is definitely some good information, there is definitely a lot of unnecessary shit talking. Just saying.

This isn't something to take light, this is an 8 year military obligation, in the most physically demanding and cultish branches of all the US military. I don't blame the guy one bit for wanting some clarity, or even a little bit of information as to whether the rewards are worth the risk.

You guys are in so its all common knowledge, but look at it from the perspective of someone who legitimately knows nothing about the organization or anything about the job other than from propaganda and advertisement. It's pretty stupid to just jump into any kind of seriously demanding and legally binding contract without at least looking over the terms. Well whatever I'll probably get a lot of shit talking thrown my way, so let it come.
 
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Pilot Wannabe

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slug said:
I have serious doubts about your motivation, rmp. What ever happened to kids who just want to fly and will do anything to attain that goal? Honestly, I saw Top Gun when I was 9 and that was all the motivation I needed.
Aviators do not need a roadmap for their entire life or career, just getting in and staying in the cockpit is good enough. So you wanted to fly military your entire life, but didn't enlist, try for the Academies or ROTC at whatever school you attended.
Sounds like the dream was never that important for you, my friend.

As Louis Armstrong said, "Man, if you gotta ask you'll never know."
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Wow you aren't gay at all.
 
User1993

User1993

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Pilotwannabe. Rookie move there. If these guys are chewing someone out (and this hardly quals as a chewing) my god you better watch from a distance, and feel bad for them in silence. The way it goes is you join the website, ask your first and dumbest question (that's been answered already), get simultaneously answered and punished for it, then start searching from there on out. Just some thoughts from a fellow wannabe.
 
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