Burkes are a lot stronger than previous hull designs. As Flash mentioned - they took on some hard lessons from Belknap, Stark, and Falklands - as well as the Ticos (which were originally just Spruance class with a massive superstructure).
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USS Fitzgerald collision in C7F
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This American Life picks up on the sleep deprivation issue in surface navy.
I just listened to that today. I can't believe RADM McKnight's comment in there. According to him, it is the sailors responsibility to find the time to get sleep.
I'm not surprised. That's been the Surface Navy's mantra for years.
And they dog on us for having callsigns, because they’re supposedly “inappropriate,” when they’re literally killing their Sailors.
To return to everyone’s favorite Safety Center cliche, the “hockey stick” graph, here’s an article from a retired Safety Center CO about how Naval Aviation started figuring out how to stop needlessly killing people almost 60 years ago.
But they can't be in their racks from reveille to taps.
Solid journalism.
FormerRecruitingGuru
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SWO Boss stepping down
http://www.public.navy.mil/surfor/P...ace-Force-US-Pacific-Fleet-.aspx#.Wl52JmJlCaM
http://www.public.navy.mil/surfor/P...ace-Force-US-Pacific-Fleet-.aspx#.Wl52JmJlCaM
In lieu of being fired, it seems.
https://www.defensenews.com/breakin...n-under-pressure-in-latest-collision-fallout/
Silhouette
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Heard this on NPR on the way home. CDR Benson and CDR Sanchez charged with dereliction of duty, hazarding a vessel and negligent homicide. Wow. Have similar charges been brought against COs in the past?
https://news.usni.org/2018/01/16/fo...ide-dereliction-duty-charges-fatal-collisions
https://news.usni.org/2018/01/16/fo...ide-dereliction-duty-charges-fatal-collisions
Yes.
USS RADFORD and BELKNAP come to mind. I don't think any have actually been found guilty though.
Probably a tough case to make against CDR Benson.
CDR Sanchez was actually awake and present for his fiasco, so he's probably facing longer odds.
These indictments came after much careful study - I mean in no was was this reactionary. I like that Director of Naval Reactors was the authority determining what actions came from these collisions. I can't think of a better choice. He's a line officer, but from the Submarine Force so he is unlikely to have any deep connections to the Surface Force leadership that he reviewed.
So it's good to see the system of leadership and accountability working - ultimately its all about getting to the truth.
I hope one of the outcomes is a real review of human performance with respect to sleep/rest. No more "suck it up Buttercup". The lessons Aviation learned 70 years ago.
So it's good to see the system of leadership and accountability working - ultimately its all about getting to the truth.
I hope one of the outcomes is a real review of human performance with respect to sleep/rest. No more "suck it up Buttercup". The lessons Aviation learned 70 years ago.
Any military aviation accidents that resulted in charges like these? I'm not trolling, just curious. Accidents have killed people and destroyed property on the ground, but I haven't heard of a case being brought of negligent homicide or anything similar.
I'm no lawyer - but my puny understanding of law is the issue is always about intent - malicious intent. The NTSB in Civil Aviation sets the tone that it is always unwise to criminalize true human error. The FAA has to my knowledge agreed with this. I'm guessing Mil/UCMJ is similar.
God, use the search function Newb...
https://www.airwarriors.com/communi...d-in-crash-to-be-charged-with-homicide.38226/
Also see:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cavalese_cable_car_disaster_(1998)
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