RockyMtnNFO said:
Now that's just mean.
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vision requirement for SNA confirmed
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Now that's just mean.
RockyMtnNFO said:
Yeah. Its a 8 hour transatlantic flight in a 747 to a destination of your choosing, only problem is you have to land where there are limes. Study up those comms!
nugget81 said:
Great advice.
Look, nobody here is trying to beat you down. Having been in a few commands and part of wardrooms, we are trying to get across some subtle training here that you need a thick skin and need to stop taking yourself so seriously. Trust me, if you can't accept some sarcasm and irony from the senior guys, you are going to have a rough, rough time.
Soooo, don't feel like we are all hating on you. Just realize that this forum is a great place to get a feel for the fleet and learn some great truths. If you can't accept some instruction and a little ribbing, you need to learn how or the first time that you scour the squadron spaces for pneumatic fluid you are going to blow a pfetzer valve and get a reputation as somebody who can't take a joke.
I am not trying to imply that this is you, just some brotherhood in case you have these tendencies; I did, a little and learned, sometimes the hard way, that relaxing, listening and letting the senior guys/gals show you the way will save you pain in the long run.
I'm an Ensign in grad school in San Diego. I did my flight physical in June 2005 and did IFS already. I had 20/20 both eyes then, but now I know my left eye is 20/25. I'm a 1390 already so does that mean I've already passed the biggest hurdle? Or if my vision somehow gets worse than 20/40 can I still get stopped at the gate when I get to p-cola in summer 2007? I looked at the NAMI website and it left me with the impression that 20/40 was just for SNA applicants and that once you were designated other standards apply (see below). Thanks for any help in advance.
I found this for Class I personel (aviators and SNA):
Distant Visual Acuity: 20/400 [!!!] or better each eye uncorrected, corrected to 20/20 or better each eye. The first time distant visual acuity of less than 20/20 is noted a manifest refraction (not cycloplegic) shall be performed recording the correction required for the aviator to see 20/20 in each eye (all letters correct on the 20/20 line).
Near Visual Acuity: Must correct to 20/20 in each eye using either the AFVT or standard 16 Snellen or Sloan notation nearpoint card. Bifocals are approved.
(http://www.nomi.med.navy.mil/NAMI/WaiverGuideTopics/pdfs/Physical Standards.pdf)
I found this for Class I personel (aviators and SNA):
Distant Visual Acuity: 20/400 [!!!] or better each eye uncorrected, corrected to 20/20 or better each eye. The first time distant visual acuity of less than 20/20 is noted a manifest refraction (not cycloplegic) shall be performed recording the correction required for the aviator to see 20/20 in each eye (all letters correct on the 20/20 line).
Near Visual Acuity: Must correct to 20/20 in each eye using either the AFVT or standard 16 Snellen or Sloan notation nearpoint card. Bifocals are approved.
(http://www.nomi.med.navy.mil/NAMI/WaiverGuideTopics/pdfs/Physical Standards.pdf)
hhour said:
That is a good one. I really don't know for sure. My experience has been that before you get the 20/400 break you have to be designated a NA. That is winged. Keep in mind that the new soft contact lens waiver will apply to you if you meet those requirements. Bottom line, don't sweat it until they stop you at NAMI. If it happens they will give you your options at that time.
wink said:
Thanks so much. I see that you have to have contacts for 7 months (counting the 30 day pre-exam period). I'm about 13 months until p-cola. If I lay low and they find out in Pensacola would I get delayed? Would you suggest getting a mil eye exam sometime soon? Or maybe just go to a civilian for now - perhaps get contacts to keep vision from getting any worse (or is that something I shouldn't do b/c I'm active duty)?
Sorry lots of questions. Thanks again!
tjamz said:
Yes. Months before the Navy got around to looking at the scl waiver the Marines were on board. There is a guy that I had a posting exchange with here on AW that had the scl waiver and was a Marine. Don't remember his name. Do a good search of all the vision type of threads. You will know it when you see it because he and I had a heated exchange over the wavier issue. He insisted that Navy guys could get a scl wavier just because he got one for the Marines. He was wrong then. Now the Navy and Marines both will screen for the waiver.
in ref to the post by joboy....are the OCS/NAMI physical done at the same time these days....meaning are they one and the same? If not, then just finishing OCS doesn't guarentee you anything. The NAMI physical is the one that makes or breaks you, and you usually have to be winged, or at least IN the program for any extra generosity to be shown.