What NRC considers competitive

[Sojournex]

Have your recruiter show the list of available designators an OCS applicant can apply for. Those links you sent do not apply for OCS programs. Try again.

The document I provided lists OCS as one of the commissioning sources.

From page 2:

"2. Applicability of this Article. This article is applicable to active duty officers who have been selected for and commissioned into the IWC Option Program from the following commissioning sources: a. United States Naval Academy (USNA); b. Naval Reserve Officers Training Corps; c. Officer Candidate School (OCS); or d. Seaman-to-Admiral Program (STA-21)"

Further it states on page 4:

"4. Appointment. Candidates selected for the IWC Option Program are commissioned as ensigns and initially designated as surface warfare officers in training (1160)."

and

"a. First Assignment. During their initial tour, IWC Option Program officers are required to complete the SWO qualification (as outlined in reference (b)) and perform the full range of duties and responsibilities associated with a traditional SWO assignment. "

My recruiter and I literally discussed this path (SWO with INTEL option), and in the documentation it clearly states OCS is a viable commissioning avenue for individuals applying for the IWC option. So I again do not understand your flat denial that this does not even exist as an option. Is my information out of date?

 

[FormerRecruitingGuru]

The document I provided lists OCS as one of the commissioning sources.

From page 2:

"2. Applicability of this Article. This article is applicable to active duty officers who have been selected for and commissioned into the IWC Option Program from the following commissioning sources: a. United States Naval Academy (USNA); b. Naval Reserve Officers Training Corps; c. Officer Candidate School (OCS); or d. Seaman-to-Admiral Program (STA-21)"

Further it states on page 4:

"4. Appointment. Candidates selected for the IWC Option Program are commissioned as ensigns and initially designated as surface warfare officers in training (1160)."

and

"a. First Assignment. During their initial tour, IWC Option Program officers are required to complete the SWO qualification (as outlined in reference (b)) and perform the full range of duties and responsibilities associated with a traditional SWO assignment. "

My recruiter and I literally discussed this path (SWO with INTEL option), and in the documentation it clearly states OCS is a viable commissioning avenue for individuals applying for the IWC option. So I again do not understand your flat denial that this does not even exist as an option. Is my information out of date?

I just checked the PA (which changed recently - May 18) and yes there is a SWO-Intel. However, if you look at the past two IWC board there was ZERO SWO-Intel selectees. It wasn't even specifically mentioned in the selection list.

So my original statement stands. Either apply for SWO or Intel.

 

[Sojournex]

I just checked the PA (which changed recently - May 18) and yes there is a SWO-Intel. However, if you look at the past two IWC board there was ZERO SWO-Intel selectees. It wasn't even specifically mentioned in the selection list.

So my original statement stands. Either apply for SWO or Intel.

Alright fair enough, I appreciate the insight. So back to my original question, what's your assessment of my competitiveness based on my background for the three options:

SWO, INTEL, & Aviator (Pilot)

 

[exNavyOffRec]

Alright fair enough, I appreciate the insight. So back to my original question, what's your assessment of my competitiveness based on my background for the three options:

SWO, INTEL, & Aviator (Pilot)

SWO-INTEL originally became an option around 2011/2012 but I do not believe they have ever selected a person for it, SWO-Options are more of a thing for USNA or NROTC

You should really take the ASTB to see how that goes.

 

[AULANI]

I never met any SWO-Intel types at OCS... in either all the classes before me or the ones after me. There is a girl in my NIOBC class now who is SWO-Intel but she was an academy grad and specifically got picked to go that route. In fact all the SWO-xxxx in my IWBC class were academy or ROTC.

If I were you I'd go pilot because it's cool... if you attrite you'll probably end up Intel anyway.

 

[soharo]

I figured I’d ask for opinions to see where I currently stand. Looking to submit for the April 29th board. My OCS package is still in progress, but this is what I’ve got so far. I’ve been an intelligence analyst for 6 years at two different commands. Have yet to be at a command that offers IW, but I intend on getting it during our upcoming deployment.

I’ll get my next periodic eval in March. I’m at the same aviation command and should get a similar eval to the last one.

My degree will be finished at the end of January. My GPA at my first college was rough at a 2.57 (47 credits). I’m pursuing a degree for Intelligence Studies and look to finish with a 3.92 GPA. I’m hoping this will weigh more with the board as this were all upper level major specific courses. My cumulative GPA should be roughly a 3.29.

I have taken the OAR once and scored 50 as I did not have time to study with my current class/work schedule. I plan to study and test again after the new year.

Any recommendations/advice would be appreciated. Thanks.

Active Duty: IS2 (AW), 6 years
Evals (newest to oldest): Pending (Periodic), 4.29 2 of 23 EP (Periodic), 3.71 MP (Periodic)
Undergrad: 3.29 GPA
OAR: 50
Age: 24
LORs: O-6 (Aviation Captain), O-5 (SIO), O-4 (Previous CAG AI)
Applying for: INTEL

 

[FormerRecruitingGuru]

Applying for: INTEL

As said many times to others before consider SWO/Pilot if you don’t get selected (assuming you’re age eligible).

 

[soharo]

As said many times to others before consider SWO/Pilot if you don’t get selected (assuming you’re age eligible).

Thanks RUFiO. I've thought about that route and may give it a shot if this doesn't work out. I've looked through the forums to see what the board considers to be competitive as of late. I haven't seen much of a trend, but know I need to take the OAR again to get my score up to offset the cumulative GPA. Do you know if they take any consideration into the GPA from the two different colleges or are they primarily only looking at the cumulative?

 

[FormerRecruitingGuru]

Thanks RUFiO. I've thought about that route and may give it a shot if this doesn't work out. I've looked through the forums to see what the board considers to be competitive as of late. I haven't seen much of a trend, but know I need to take the OAR again to get my score up to offset the cumulative GPA. Do you know if they take any consideration into the GPA from the two different colleges or are they primarily only looking at the cumulative?

It’s the cumulative.

 

[Scimitarze]

Figured I might try to get some insight too. OR said to apply next year after the 6 month LASIK post-op with my current ASTB scores, but I wanted to get some second opinions. The most recent board looks pretty stacked with 8s and 9s, and I was wondering if that was the norm as well.

Age: 22
Cumulative GPA: ~3.8
ASTB: 57 7/6/6
Applying for: SNA

 

[wnader]

Figured I might try to get some insight too. OR said to apply next year after the 6 month LASIK post-op with my current ASTB scores, but I wanted to get some second opinions. The most recent board looks pretty stacked with 8s and 9s, and I was wondering if that was the norm as well.

Age: 22
Cumulative GPA: ~3.8
ASTB: 57 7/6/6
My guess is that the applicants who post and are active in these discussions for the most part have higher average scores than the average. People want to show off their scores and are more keen on sharing. Same thing with political surveys for example. The more passionate people will participate thus skewing the data in one direction. There are also many others that aren’t active on this site so we have think about them as well. I believe the averages for the past boards was like a 56 6/6/6 or something and a pilot score of 85. But yet again I’m sure every board is different so all we can do is hope. I have very similar stats to you so I’m praying right along with you.

 

[scott47]

Age: 25. Would likely be 26 by the time I went to OCS if selected.
GPA: 3.65
Degree: B.S. Civil Engineering
OAR: 70
Work experience: 2 years as a civil engineer (EIT), half in design and half in project management
LORs: 2 professional (current + previous supervisors at work), 1 character (coworker from a previous non-engineering job)

One potential problem is I need a relatively uncommon vision waiver ("history of" that no longer affects me) but that's out of my hands and the only way to know if I can get one is to try. I would be applying at least CEC. Also considering nuke, specifically NPS Instructor, however I'm not sure if I have a chance, and I know it's ODS not OCS and extremely different from CEC. Something to bring up with an OR though. I don't want to apply to just one community, especially if I might be more likely to get a waiver with one over the other.

 

[AaronBrown34]

Any idea on what is competitive for Supply officers? I checked out one thread that said a 3.5 gpa w/ business degree is good but it said nothing about OAR scores. I have a B.A in business management w/ a 3.4 gpa; I scored a 48 on the OAR. Currently waiting on the Supply board to review the whole package in February. I have no criminal history and 2 years of work experience in business related field. I want to say I'm fairly competitive, but I've read some conflicting information in my research. Based on this post, do you have any idea how competitive I actually am? I'm on pens and needles over here waiting for February. Any info helps. Thanks!

 

[FormerRecruitingGuru]

Any idea on what is competitive for Supply officers? I checked out one thread that said a 3.5 gpa w/ business degree is good but it said nothing about OAR scores. I have a B.A in business management w/ a 3.4 gpa; I scored a 48 on the OAR. Currently waiting on the Supply board to review the whole package in February. I have no criminal history and 2 years of work experience in business related field. I want to say I'm fairly competitive, but I've read some conflicting information in my research. Based on this post, do you have any idea how competitive I actually am? I'm on pens and needles over here waiting for February. Any info helps. Thanks!

There’s a separate thread dedicated to what’s considered competitive for Supply. I recommend searching around.

 

[bubblehead]

Check out the Program Authorizations. I put some data in a thread in here somewhere.