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chaos0722

New Member
Hello everybody. I wanted to see where I'll stand when submitting my package.
Active Duty: CTT1 (IW/SW/AW), 12 years
Evals: MP (Periodic) 6 of 21, MP (Periodic), EP (Transfer)
Undergrad: 3.0 GPA
OAR: 53
Age: 32
LORs: 0-7, O-6, O-5
Applying for: INTEL, SWO-IP, IP, possibly SWO
 
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AULANI

Well-Known Member
chaos0722 said:
Hello everybody. I wanted to see where I'll stand when submitting my package.
Active Duty: CTT1 (IW/SW/AW), 12 years
Evals: MP (Periodic) 6 of 21, MP (Periodic), EP (Transfer)
Undergrad: 3.0 GPA
OAR: 53
Age: 32
LORs: 0-7, O-6, O-5
Applying for: INTEL, SWO-IP, IP, possibly SWO
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Just going off the stats from my Intel class I would say your GPA is kinda low, most everyone is in the 3.65+ range. Everything else looks comparable though. Good luck!
 
FormerRecruitingGuru

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chaos0722 said:
Hello everybody. I wanted to see where I'll stand when submitting my package.
Active Duty: CTT1 (IW/SW/AW), 12 years
Evals: MP (Periodic) 6 of 21, MP (Periodic), EP (Transfer)
Undergrad: 3.0 GPA
OAR: 53
Age: 32
LORs: 0-7, O-6, O-5
Applying for: INTEL, SWO-IP, IP, possibly SWO
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You can apply for the first two, but in the event you’re not selected I would recommend considering applying for SWO #1 and only choice. You can’t have SWO as a third choice FYI.

@AULANI hit it with the low GPA. What’s your major? Assuming it’s a non-STEM degree that will hurt for IWC.
 
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exNavyOffRec

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chaos0722 said:
Hello everybody. I wanted to see where I'll stand when submitting my package.
Active Duty: CTT1 (IW/SW/AW), 12 years
Evals: MP (Periodic) 6 of 21, MP (Periodic), EP (Transfer)
Undergrad: 3.0 GPA
OAR: 53
Age: 32
LORs: 0-7, O-6, O-5
Applying for: INTEL, SWO-IP, IP, possibly SWO
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I would echo what the other 2 have said, if non-stem go for Intel and SWO, with a lower GPA you want to get the best chance you can.
 
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RUFiO181 said:
Don’t bother applying for Intel or Supply. Your degree or GPA (for Intel) don’t align with either.
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Really? Used to be history was one of the preferred majors for Intel. I put plenty of history majors in Intel. IMO, it makes sense.

My son was a history major. Before deciding to go to law school he was pursuing a couple intel options on the civ side. His degree was never an issue.
 
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exNavyOffRec

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wink said:
Really? Used to be history was one of the preferred majors for Intel. I put plenty of history majors in Intel. IMO, it makes sense.

My son was a history major. Before deciding to go to law school he was pursuing a couple intel options on the civ side. His degree was never an issue.
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Everything is going tech, even the Intel officers I worked with on recruiting said they wouldn't have been picked up by the current selection stats, it isn't just the USN either, one of the big schools I would attend career fairs at would attract 3 letter agencies to their agencies and of course all government gets grouped together, they wouldn't give a student the time of day if you didn't have a STEM degree, they said non-STEM are a dime a dozen and you better have a fantastic GPA and resume.
 
FormerRecruitingGuru

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wink said:
Really? Used to be history was one of the preferred majors for Intel. I put plenty of history majors in Intel. IMO, it makes sense.

My son was a history major. Before deciding to go to law school he was pursuing a couple intel options on the civ side. His degree was never an issue.
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Two big reasons:

1. Boards want 60/40 STEM vs. Non-STEM majors selected.
2. For every 1 liberal arts (history, international relations, poli sci, etc.) major I find, there's probably 10 more out there. They are a dime a dozen and far outnumber the STEM types applying.

I'm not saying a non-STEM will not get picked up, but they better have a STRONG application to include high GPA and a high OAR score. There were a few I've seen, one who was English who got a 4.0 GPA and another girl who had a 3.9 Criminology GPA. I personally put in a 3.95 GPA Poli Sci grad as a CW, but he was a former CT which I believe helped his case.
 
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Dont want to restart a debate over STEM vs Liberal Arts, but intel guys research, write, forecast and analyze . That just happens to be what most liberal arts programs are about. I get the rockin GPA thing. But if a 3.5 in EE is "smarter" than a 3.8 in History it doesn't mean he can communicate worth a damn or consume volumes of written information and make sense of it all. Hell the biggest problem with recruiting NUPOCs was finding one with a life and personality.
 
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chaos0722

New Member
RUFiO181 said:
You can apply for the first two, but in the event you’re not selected I would recommend considering applying for SWO #1 and only choice. You can’t have SWO as a third choice FYI.

@AULANI hit it with the low GPA. What’s your major? Assuming it’s a non-STEM degree that will hurt for IWC.
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My degree is in Information Technology Management
 
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Sojournex

New Member
Hello Air Warriors Community,

Like most who post on this thread I was hoping for a bit of input on my competitiveness. I visited my recruiter and he told me he didn’t know, which I found odd because I would imagine a good recruiter should be able to identify a strong/weak candidate. Anyway, I am currently finishing up a master’s degree and am planning on putting in some packages early next year with the intention of going to OCS IF selected next fall after I get my degree. I am interested in the following three options (for now) listed in order of preference.
  • SWO (INTEL Option)
  • INTEL
  • Naval Aviator (Pilot)
If anyone can offer some insight into my competitiveness for each of these, especially the SWO Intel option which I haven't found a whole lot of information on, I would greatly appreciate it. Below I have listed what I think is relevant information about me. All of this will be the same come next year when I apply.
  • 21 years old (not a typo)
  • Master’s Degree (in progress) MBA with Economics Concentration ~3.7 GPA
  • Bachelor’s Degree BS in Economics with minors in PoliSci and International Studies 3.2 GPA
  • 1.5 years full time work as an analyst for a bank, only analyst assigned to a $50 mil portfolio (have collateral duty of writing economic reports for board of directors)
  • Honors Student in Undergrad
  • Marshal of my Fraternity
  • President of college chapter of one of the two major political parties
  • Peer mentor to new freshmen honors students
  • Studied abroad in South America
  • High School Cadet Commander of NJROTC unit (Highest Possible)
  • National champion for LandNav and Academic competition for NJROTC
  • Haven’t taken the OAR yet but do have these test scores if they are indicators:
    • ACT: 32
    • ASVAB: 98
  • Have some flight hours but no license
  • Meet h/w and have clean medical history, cleared by FAA for previous flight training
  • Recommendation letters:
    • O-5 – Navy Intel Officer
    • O-6 – Air Force Pilot, West Point Grad
    • O-4 – NJROTC Instructor
    • College Professor I worked for as a research assistant/studied abroad with
Thanks again for any insight, I have already gotten so many questions answered from this community and I appreciate it.
 
FormerRecruitingGuru

FormerRecruitingGuru

Making Recruiting Great Again
Sojournex said:
Hello Air Warriors Community,

Like most who post on this thread I was hoping for a bit of input on my competitiveness. I visited my recruiter and he told me he didn’t know, which I found odd because I would imagine a good recruiter should be able to identify a strong/weak candidate. Anyway, I am currently finishing up a master’s degree and am planning on putting in some packages early next year with the intention of going to OCS IF selected next fall after I get my degree. I am interested in the following three options (for now) listed in order of preference.
  • SWO (INTEL Option)
  • INTEL
  • Naval Aviator (Pilot)
If anyone can offer some insight into my competitiveness for each of these, especially the SWO Intel option which I haven't found a whole lot of information on, I would greatly appreciate it. Below I have listed what I think is relevant information about me. All of this will be the same come next year when I apply.
  • 21 years old (not a typo)
  • Master’s Degree (in progress) MBA with Economics Concentration ~3.7 GPA
  • Bachelor’s Degree BS in Economics with minors in PoliSci and International Studies 3.2 GPA
  • 1.5 years full time work as an analyst for a bank, only analyst assigned to a $50 mil portfolio (have collateral duty of writing economic reports for board of directors)
  • Honors Student in Undergrad
  • Marshal of my Fraternity
  • President of college chapter of one of the two major political parties
  • Peer mentor to new freshmen honors students
  • Studied abroad in South America
  • High School Cadet Commander of NJROTC unit (Highest Possible)
  • National champion for LandNav and Academic competition for NJROTC
  • Haven’t taken the OAR yet but do have these test scores if they are indicators:
    • ACT: 32
    • ASVAB: 98
  • Have some flight hours but no license
  • Meet h/w and have clean medical history, cleared by FAA for previous flight training
  • Recommendation letters:
    • O-5 – Navy Intel Officer
    • O-6 – Air Force Pilot, West Point Grad
    • O-4 – NJROTC Instructor
    • College Professor I worked for as a research assistant/studied abroad with
Thanks again for any insight, I have already gotten so many questions answered from this community and I appreciate it.
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There’s no such thing as SWO Intel. Try again.
 
FormerRecruitingGuru

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Sojournex said:
https://www.public.navy.mil/bupers-...000/1200Classification/Documents/1212-050.pdf

https://www.public.navy.mil/bupers-...nrestricted/Pages/SurfaceWarfare(SWO)OCM.aspx
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SWO with INTEL option seems to be a thing unless I am seriously misunderstanding this. The recruiter also seems to believe SWO with INTEL option is a thing as well.
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Have your recruiter show the list of available designators an OCS applicant can apply for. Those links you sent do not apply for OCS programs. Try again.
 
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