What NRC considers competitive

[TR_9124]

Nice GPA but that major... also what is that Master's program?

If I'm not mistaken you have to get at least a 50 on the OAR for Intel. Maybe it's different for active duty personnel. Either way, that OAR score is kinda low. As a prior IS1 myself, good luck!

So my Undergrad is a B.S. in Homeland Security and had quite a few intelligence courses along with emergency management and leadership courses....It's a pretty unique degree and I have a friend who was selected first time up with the same one. The Master's program is a M.S. and a focus on general leadership, but they have a few different focuses within, one being the intelligence management, so nearly all of my courses are intelligence-focused.

I know my OAR isn't ideal, originally I was going to apply for SNA and focused heavily on that side of the test while studying. I contemplated retaking it, but expressed my concerns to each of the O-6s who did my interview appraisals and they said not to worry about it due to the rest of my package being extremely competitive. The PA states a OAR of 50, waiverable to 45, and my waiver is being sent with my package today.

I'm hopeful, but appreciate the feedback from people who have been selected/are familiar with the process.

Thank you.

 

[sldm992]

So my Undergrad is a B.S. in Homeland Security and had quite a few intelligence courses along with emergency management and leadership courses....It's a pretty unique degree and I have a friend who was selected first time up with the same one. The Master's program is a M.S. and a focus on general leadership, but they have a few different focuses within, one being the intelligence management, so nearly all of my courses are intelligence-focused.

I know my OAR isn't ideal, originally I was going to apply for SNA and focused heavily on that side of the test while studying. I contemplated retaking it, but expressed my concerns to each of the O-6s who did my interview appraisals and they said not to worry about it due to the rest of my package being extremely competitive. The PA states a OAR of 50, waiverable to 45, and my waiver is being sent with my package today.

I'm hopeful, but appreciate the feedback from people who have been selected/are familiar with the process.

Thank you.

What schools did you attend? I didn’t know there were BS options for homeland security. Personally I’m studying a BS in intelligence and security

 

[TR_9124]

What schools did you attend? I didn’t know there were BS options for homeland security. Personally I’m studying a BS in intelligence and security

I got my undergrad from University of Maryland University College (now University of Maryland Global Campus) and I'm also working on my Master's through the same school. It's a relatively dynamic degree and there are different paths through the Homeland Security pipeline, including Intelligence, Emergency Management, or Criminal Justice. Mine was heavily intelligence focused, with courses on analysis, counter-terrorism, and leadership in the IC. The Capstone course was heavily focused on Leadership both conceptually and through investigations of historic leaders in the associated communities. I thought it was great and I had quite a few professors who were SES's at DHS, FBI, and CIA.

 

[sldm992]

I got my undergrad from University of Maryland University College (now University of Maryland Global Campus) and I'm also working on my Master's through the same school. It's a relatively dynamic degree and there are different paths through the Homeland Security pipeline, including Intelligence, Emergency Management, or Criminal Justice. Mine was heavily intelligence focused, with courses on analysis, counter-terrorism, and leadership in the IC. The Capstone course was heavily focused on Leadership both conceptually and through investigations of historic leaders in the associated communities. I thought it was great and I had quite a few professors who were SES's at DHS, FBI, and CIA.

That sounds very similar to my program. All professors come from background in the IC. Capstone was partnering with local and county law enforcement to assist in investigations. We also have mandatory language and regional study. That’s just interesting to me because my school literally advertises that we are the only undergrad intelligence college in the country. Guess they were wrong lol

 

[TR_9124]

That sounds very similar to my program. All professors come from background in the IC. Capstone was partnering with local and county law enforcement to assist in investigations. We also have mandatory language and regional study. That’s just interesting to me because my school literally advertises that we are the only undergrad intelligence college in the country. Guess they were wrong lol

I think everyone tries to claim that and I know I had a few professors who teach the same or similar courses at multiple schools. Yours seems more geared toward domestic intelligence collection and analysis via Law Enforcement/FBI vice a more generalized look at intelligence, what it entails, and how to lead in the community. I know George Washington University has a Masters of Professional Studies (M.P.S.) in Homeland Security and I'm not familiar with an M.P.S, but I have been told an M.S. would look much better. My school also offers an M.S. in Homeland Security and the courses seemed very similar to those of what GWU offered; however, I decided to narrow my focus into the M.S. in Intelligence Management.

 

[sldm992]

I think everyone tries to claim that and I know I had a few professors who teach the same or similar courses at multiple schools. Yours seems more geared toward domestic intelligence collection and analysis via Law Enforcement/FBI vice a more generalized look at intelligence, what it entails, and how to lead in the community. I know George Washington University has a Masters of Professional Studies (M.P.S.) in Homeland Security and I'm not familiar with an M.P.S, but I have been told an M.S. would look much better. My school also offers an M.S. in Homeland Security and the courses seemed very similar to those of what GWU offered; however, I decided to narrow my focus into the M.S. in Intelligence Management.

No it’s not geared towards domestic intelligence. The process of analysis is the same for all kinds of intelligence so for educational purposes, law enforcement is a good place to apply skills and somewhat easier to get access to for a capstone class. Another project we had was providing OSINT for a 3 letter in DoD. It pretty much encompasses the wide spectrum of intel and how to analyze/collect it. I think the masters for intel management sounds really cool though, definitely something i would consider in the future

 

[exNavyOffRec]

Second post, but the IWC Board 02 Dec thread is not very active.

Submitting my package by the end of the week, but throwing my package stats on here for reference/criticism/comparison:

28 Years Old
IS1 (IW/EXW/PJ) 9.5 years active
Multiple deployments with a JSOTF as an IS, intimately familiar with all aspects of the IWC as represented through my evals and LoRs
Bachelors: Homeland Security- 3.92 GPA
Masters: Intelligence Management - Just Started
OAR/ASTB: 48 6/8/7
Appraisals: 3x O-6 1830's
LoRs: O-8 (1830), O-5 (O-6 select 1830) - Directly worked with both and received personal endorsements
Applying for: 1830 and 11605 (SWO-IW Option)

Things that will help: you are an IS, and you have a very high GPA. Things that will not help: non-tech degree

 

[TR_9124]

Things that will help: you are an IS, and you have a very high GPA. Things that will not help: non-tech degree

Package submitted, so lets hope it plays out in my favor in 8ish week.

 

[mmhoang1]

Just trying see how I am sitting at the moment

Programs applying for: 1. SNA, 2. NFO
ASTB: 60 8/8/8
Active Duty, 5 years, E-6/AE1
Age: 26
Sex: Male
Degree: BS Electrical Technology (took Calculus 1,2 &3 and Calculus-based Physics 1 & 2)
GPA: 3.86
Last 3 Evals: EP, MP, P
Last 3 PRTs: Outstanding medium, Outstanding medium, Outstanding low

If this does not work out, I will be pushing boots in RTC Great Lakes, IL in May.

 

[P3 F0]

mmhoang1, welcome to Naval Aviation.

 

[grizzi17]

Hello all. I'm trying to apply for SNA- May 2020 board. It's s probably too early to see if I'm competitive for that particular board, but I want to see if I'm competitive in general. Here's my info:

Age: 21
Major: Human Factors and Aviation Safety
GPA: 3.8
ASTB: 52 6/7/7
Private Pilot Certificate
Prior Service: No
LORs from two professors who were Naval Aviators (USN O-6, USN O-5). Mentor and Family friend who was a USMC pilot (O-5), and my soccer coach.
No waivers.

 

[Roger O. Thornhill]

The IWC Board for December 2 thread is pretty sparse -- I wanted to check in to see where I stand for selection as an intelligence officer.

Selection Rankings: 1) Intelligence; 2) NFO; 3) SWO
ASTB: 61 8/6/8
GPA: 3.95 @ Harvard - B.A. in History and International Relations (Government)
Age: 21
Sex: Male
LoRs: Fmr. Governor, Fmr. SECDEF; two professors; Fmr. presidential advisor for national security affairs
Work Experience:
--Strategy Consultant for fighter program
--DoD in US Africa Command analyzing foreign investments
--DC think tank specializing in national security
--DC strategic advisory firm focusing on defense clients

Any help and advice about chances and ways to improve would be greatly appreciated.

 

[Meatman4000]

Hello, had a question about applying for Supply. If I'm enlisted and my rate doesn't relate to supply (Intel nerd rate), would that affect my chances of being selected? Also, would an O-3 interview be weak, or those don't hold as much weight as GPA/Major/OAR?


Choices: #1 Supply/#2 Crypto
CTI2/3.5 Yrs. TIS
Evals: P (A-School), MP, EP
Age: 21
Major: B.S. Economics (Some Programming, Engineering, Calc I+II), Business Minor
GPA: 3.71
OAR: 70
Interviews: Supply O-3/Crypto O-5/Crypto O-4


Thanks in advance, sorry for another annoying stats post.

 

[AULANI]

Hello all. I'm trying to apply for SNA- May 2020 board. It's s probably too early to see if I'm competitive for that particular board, but I want to see if I'm competitive in general. Here's my info:

Age: 21
Major: Human Factors and Aviation Safety
GPA: 3.8
ASTB: 52 6/7/7
Private Pilot Certificate
Prior Service: No
LORs from two professors who were Naval Aviators (USN O-6, USN O-5). Mentor and Family friend who was a USMC pilot (O-5), and my soccer coach.
No waivers.

From what I've seen previously, you have a good chance of being selected.

 

[AULANI]

The IWC Board for December 2 thread is pretty sparse -- I wanted to check in to see where I stand for selection as an intelligence officer.

Selection Rankings: 1) Intelligence; 2) NFO; 3) SWO
ASTB: 61 8/6/8
GPA: 3.95 @ Harvard - B.A. in History and International Relations (Government)
Age: 21
Sex: Male
LoRs: Fmr. Governor, Fmr. SECDEF; two professors; Fmr. presidential advisor for national security affairs
Work Experience:
--Strategy Consultant for fighter program
--DoD in US Africa Command analyzing foreign investments
--DC think tank specializing in national security
--DC strategic advisory firm focusing on defense clients

Any help and advice about chances and ways to improve would be greatly appreciated.

Nice GPA and LORs (although I don't know how much they care). A lot of people in Intel have a Master's but it not might matter in your case.

Great ASTB, why aren't you going SNA? Good luck!