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HercDriver

Idiots w/boats = job security
pilot
Super Moderator
That just doesn't seem to the be the case here. It appears that CGA has summarily decided that minorities, because they are minorities, need more help. Unfortunate and undesired effect.
I'm guessing that the CG decided that minorities were being retained at the Academy less than non-minorities, based on tracking data over many years. They then decided that they needed to do something about it, like finding the leading causes. They then decided to try to mitigate it with giving the opportunity to acclimate a few days earlier (among other options). Who knows who actually qualifies to get to New London early...maybe it is open to others, as well. Bet a lot of cadets would NOT want to show up earlier if given the choice, but I can't really speak to that since I was an OCS guy.

If minority retention increases it sounds like a win-win to me.
 

MAKE VAPES

Uncle Pettibone
pilot
Lets all just start checking the blocks? Does anything require you to prove your "minority-ness", is there a card you get or something making you an official member?

This is how we fix the 'diversity' problem! Poof, goals met, all can hug and feel good about themselves... and we get to maintain the most capable and motivated people driving our warfare platforms.

I just love self hypenation. Lets use the most common one as an example: To call yourself just african would sound ridiculous (shit if your that proud, go ahead!), but simply calling yourself american somehow betrays your culture, sense of self or belonging (and oh God, entitlement??)?

What, are they going to come up with a new category for 'real african-american', 'black', 'yellow', 'purple', 'germanomanxirish' , what exact blood line percentage makes one african american or the others???? Since its postulated that all homosapiens came 'out of africa', aren't we all actually 'african-americans'?

F it, Im checking the block(s) from this point forward.

I agree with Morgan Freeman, "the only way to stop racism is to stop talking about it... I'll stop thinking of you as a 'white' man, you stop thinking of me as a 'black' man"...
 

MasterBates

Well-Known Member
Yep.. Should not matter if am White/Black/Asian/Hispanic/Martian or Male/Female/UNK.


But it does. And the people who are forcing us to say "it matters" are the racist/sexist ones.
 

scoolbubba

Brett327 gargles ballsacks
pilot
Contributor
Lets all just start checking the blocks? Does anything require you to prove your "minority-ness", is there a card you get or something making you an official member?

This is how we fix the 'diversity' problem! Poof, goals met, all can hug and feel good about themselves... and we get to maintain the most capable and motivated people driving our warfare platforms.

I just love self hypenation. Lets use the most common one as an example: To call yourself just african would sound ridiculous (shit if your that proud, go ahead!), but simply calling yourself american somehow betrays your culture, sense of self or belonging (and oh God, entitlement??)?

What, are they going to come up with a new category for 'real african-american', 'black', 'yellow', 'purple', 'germanomanxirish' , what exact blood line percentage makes one african american or the others???? Since its postulated that all homosapiens came 'out of africa', aren't we all actually 'african-americans'?

F it, Im checking the block(s) from this point forward.

I agree with Morgan Freeman, "the only way to stop racism is to stop talking about it... I'll stop thinking of you as a 'white' man, you stop thinking of me as a 'black' man"...

You could always be like my South African friend who won minority scholarships to school; the university was less than pleased when they found out he was THE MAN.
 

sardaddy

Registered User
pilot
I will certainly agree that all of this makes me cringe. I agree that everyone should be given an equal opportunity to excel and we shouldn't pander to certain sections of society just to make our numbers look better. The problem arises with the perception that the CG academy is not doing enough to get minorities interested in the program. Congress and the public have told the CG "You had better get more minorities in the program or we wll do it for you." The way that the CG is going about it may not be the best way but their hand was forced and have to do something.

Personnall, I think if people want to be in a military service they will go. But the politics are that the CG is being forced to increase its diversity. I am sure there are better ways to do it they just haven't been presented.
 

CommodoreMid

Whateva! I do what I want!
None
Super Moderator
Contributor
You could always be like my South African friend who won minority scholarships to school; the university was less than pleased when they found out he was THE MAN.

It always amazes me how retarded people are to think that black = African American. A girl I went to high school with would come close to cutting you if you called her that since her family had emigrated from Jamaica a couple generations back. African American she was not.
 

phrogdriver

More humble than you would understand
pilot
Super Moderator
It always amazes me how retarded people are to think that black = African American. A girl I went to high school with would come close to cutting you if you called her that since her family had emigrated from Jamaica a couple generations back. African American she was not.

There was a sportscaster for the last Olympics who was trying to say something about the representation of blacks in track and field there. He ended up saying there were a lot of "African Americans" competing, even though only one was an American at all.

I would love to see a white South African immigrant claim a scholarship for being "African American." For that matter, what about all almost all of North Africa--there's a reason that term is ridiculous.
 

Fog

Old RIOs never die: They just can't fast-erect
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Contributor
misspelling

RAdm Stosz' program should be dubbed "No cadet left behind". But wait . . . is the CG really a military organization? They now seem more like a uniformed federal police group charged w/ patrolling our lakes and buying french a/c.
 

sardaddy

Registered User
pilot
RAdm Stosz' program should be dubbed "No cadet left behind". But wait . . . is the CG really a military organization? They now seem more like a uniformed federal police group charged w/ patrolling our lakes and buying french a/c.

And you now seem like a complete tool after that comment. What's your point.
 

Fog

Old RIOs never die: They just can't fast-erect
None
Contributor
And you now seem like a complete tool after that comment. What's your point.

My intent was more bad humor than to insult. It's just that in this 21st century "War on Terrorism" the USCG looks a little like the National Guard during Viet Nam: where you go to be sure you don't get shot [at].
 

Brunes

Well-Known Member
pilot
My intent was more bad humor than to insult. It's just that in this 21st century "War on Terrorism" the USCG looks a little like the National Guard during Viet Nam: where you go to be sure you don't get shot [at].

Then you don't know what you are looking at.

Tell the JG with the LEDET team who hoists the CG Ensign on a Navy frigate or destroyer that he can be "sure you don't get shot at" Tell the cutter crews that do 21 outta 30 days underway outta Bahrain that they aren't in any danger. Or maybe the aircrews that fly the Cuban part of Cuba aren't in harms way.

+1 for complete tool comment.

Not to mention- WTF does that have to do with the diversity program this thread started talking about?? The Navy has a Diversity Directorate...
 

CoastieFlyer

Box Lunch Connoisseur
pilot
Easy, now, fellas....he admitted it was a poor attempt at a tasteless joke.

Let's not beat him up too bad over it! :icon_wink
 
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