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He'll be in charge of commissaries, better not screw 'em up or he'll have mobs of retirees with very slowly storming the Pentagon.

"The Under Secretary for Personnel and Readiness oversees a host of Pentagon program offices, including the Department of Defense Education Activity, the Military Health Care System, the Defense Commissary Agency and the Defense Travel Management Office."

EDIT: Speaking of commissaries, the Military Times just so happened to have this article as well:

Lawmakers want details on plans to privatize military stores
Lawmakers are hoping to put the brakes on a Defense Department initiative moving toward privatizing retail programs on military bases, such as commissaries, exchanges and other retail outlets.
 
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WhiskeySierra6

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He'll be in charge of commissaries, better not screw 'em up or he'll have mobs of retirees with very slowly storming the Pentagon.

"The Under Secretary for Personnel and Readiness oversees a host of Pentagon program offices, including the Department of Defense Education Activity, the Military Health Care System, the Defense Commissary Agency and the Defense Travel Management Office."

EDIT: Speaking of commissaries, the Military Times just so happened to have this article as well:

Lawmakers want details on plans to privatize military stores
I'm currently on a tri-service joint base with USAF as the lead. They just decided to privatize and consolidate the on base lodging.
 

Griz882

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I'm currently on a tri-service joint base with USAF as the lead. They just decided to privatize and consolidate the on base lodging.
Do you mean base housing? I thought base lodging (as in hotel) was already privatized. Or, maybe it is just army managed joint facilities?
 

Griz882

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That sounds like a horrible idea, not gonna lie.
I don’t know. IHG has been running all the army hotels for a number of years now under their brands (Holiday Inn, Staybridge,) and they’ve done a good job including building a number of new facilities. I can’t speak to the savings, but I’m sure the AF could use the money saved by having fewer 3F131 (basically “hospitality” NCOs). But again, I don’t have any real information on the savings.
 

ChuckMK23

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I'm currently on a tri-service joint base with USAF as the lead. They just decided to privatize and consolidate the on base lodging.
AF Non- dormitory base housing was privatized >5 years ago. Most "family style" single family homes and duplexes (Officer and Enlisted) are now under commercial property management.
 

Swanee

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Do you mean base housing? I thought base lodging (as in hotel) was already privatized. Or, maybe it is just army managed joint facilities?

That was only Army. The Inns of the Air Force still exist.

FWIW the only time I stayed on privatized lodging was about 10 years ago at Ft Huachuca. It was a brand new extended stay, I think a Staybridge suites (managed by IHG).

Honestly, it was nice then and it had all of the amenities you'd see at a similar place out in town, including free food and beer. But I'd like to see what it's like after 10 years of constant use.

If they have to turn a profit and they're the only game in town the quality will absolutely suffer.
 

sevenhelmet

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I don’t know. IHG has been running all the army hotels for a number of years now under their brands (Holiday Inn, Staybridge,) and they’ve done a good job including building a number of new facilities. I can’t speak to the savings, but I’m sure the AF could use the money saved by having fewer 3F131 (basically “hospitality” NCOs). But again, I don’t have any real information on the savings.

Fair enough.

As a stick-monkey and non-finance guy, I've always had trouble wrapping my head around how privatizing services from USG to for-profit industry makes them cheaper, but it's happened enough that I guess the math works somehow.
 

Griz882

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Fair enough.

As a stick-monkey and non-finance guy, I've always had trouble wrapping my head around how privatizing services from USG to for-profit industry makes them cheaper, but it's happened enough that I guess the math works somehow.
I guess it depends on what they are privatizing. Soft services like hotels and some MWR elements seems like fair game. I was a young Lance Corporal at Pendleton when they stopped having post-float Marines mow grass, run MWR stuff like the boat club, and similar things. The change actually improved morale and increased training time. Since 2000 the army has privatized dining facilities (no one can tell the difference - meaning the food didn’t get better) and changed how gates are managed. On the other hand, some efforts should absolutely stay in uniform.
 
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