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1001 questions (and answers) concerning BDCP

CaiqueB

SNA BDCP Applicant

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FormerRecruitingGuru

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Immediate select also known as program authorization 106 (PA-106) can be found in PA-147. However I’m not too sure about what it means when it says the application can be submitted in the same manner. I’m assuming this means that I-SEL BDCP is possible.

Your assessment is off. It straight up says BDCP boards will be held with regular OCS designator specific boards.
 
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CaiqueB

SNA BDCP Applicant
Your assessment is off. It straight up says BDCP boards will be held with regular OCS designator specific boards.
I do understand that BDCP boards are held concurrent with OCS designator boards, however the PA does mention that applications can be submitted in the same manner as I-SEL. My recruiter also told me that I-SEL is an option for BDCP applicants. The information I posted corroborates with what he has told me so far. How do you interpret that “BDCP applications will be submitted in the same manner as PA-106 (I-SEL)”? Maybe it could mean that BDCP applicants use the same form? You have not shown or provided any information that denies my claim that I-SEL is possible.
 
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FormerRecruitingGuru

Making Recruiting Great Again
I do understand that BDCP boards are held congruent with OCS designator boards, however the PA does mention that applications can be submitted in the same manner as I-SEL. My recruiter also told me that I-SEL is an option for BDCP applicants. The information I posted corroborates with what he has told me so far. How do you interpret that “BDCP applications will be submitted in the same manner as PA-106 (I-SEL)”? Maybe it could mean that BDCP applicants use the same form? You have not shown or provided any information that denies my claim that I-SEL is possible.

Your screenshot, para 5 doesn't mention I-SEL at all. Show me where I-SEL is 100% called out or mentioned. Not "linked" or possibly connected, but specifically mentioned.
 

CaiqueB

SNA BDCP Applicant
Your screenshot, para 5 doesn't mention I-SEL at all. Show me where I-SEL is 100% called out or mentioned. Not "linked" or possibly connected, but specifically mentioned.
Wow you’re really gonna make me do all the work here 😅. It appears the document I quoted and screenshotted is outdated or has a typo. PA-147 quotes OPNAVINST 1120.13B, however that document was canceled and superseded by Series C. Series C outlines the selection process for officer candidates as well as I-SEL. PA-106 follows series C and directly quotes and outlines I-SEL criteria. PA-147 states that applications will be submitted in the same manner as PA-106, meaning that I will be obligated to, and must comply with those standards. This also means that I will be able to submit an application via I-SEL as stated in PA-106. PA-147 does not state I-SEL criteria because it does not outline or construct officer candidate selection procedures. PA-147 is simply a program that potential officer candidates of specific communities can apply to, to receive pay while attending college. BDCP is not a separate officer candidate selection process. BDCP board members do not select applicants to be officer candidates for communities, they select applicants to be accepted into BDCP, that is why no mention of I-SEL is made in the document. If you think I’m misinterpreting this information please let me know where and why! Here are the documents I used to get this information.
OPNAVINST 1120.13C - Officer Candidate Selection Process
PA-106 - SNA/SNFO
PA-147 - BDCP
 

FormerRecruitingGuru

Making Recruiting Great Again
Wow you’re really gonna make me do all the work here 😅. It appears the document I quoted and screenshotted is outdated or has a typo. PA-147 quotes OPNAVINST 1120.13B, however that document was canceled and superseded by Series C. Series C outlines the selection process for officer candidates as well as I-SEL. PA-106 follows series C and directly quotes and outlines I-SEL criteria. PA-147 states that applications will be submitted in the same manner as PA-106, meaning that I will be obligated to, and must comply with those standards. This also means that I will be able to submit an application via I-SEL as stated in PA-106. PA-147 does not state I-SEL criteria because it does not outline or construct officer candidate selection procedures. PA-147 is simply a program that potential officer candidates of specific communities can apply to, to receive pay while attending college. BDCP is not a separate officer candidate selection process. BDCP board members do not select applicants to be officer candidates for communities, they select applicants to be accepted into BDCP, that is why no mention of I-SEL is made in the document. If you think I’m misinterpreting this information please let me know where and why! Here are the documents I used to get this information.
OPNAVINST 1120.13C - Officer Candidate Selection Process
PA-106 - SNA/SNFO
PA-147 - BDCP

Once again, that doesn’t associate BDCP with immediate selection. Show me specifically in PA 147 that I-SEL is called out.

Look at the PAs that actually have I-SEL, like pilot, SWO, supply, etc. and then try and compare it with BDCP. If BDCP had an actual ISEL, the language would have been the same or similar listed as the eligible PAs.

Lesson learned: If it’s not explicitly called out, very likely it’s not true.
 

exNavyOffRec

Well-Known Member
Wow you’re really gonna make me do all the work here 😅. It appears the document I quoted and screenshotted is outdated or has a typo. PA-147 quotes OPNAVINST 1120.13B, however that document was canceled and superseded by Series C. Series C outlines the selection process for officer candidates as well as I-SEL. PA-106 follows series C and directly quotes and outlines I-SEL criteria. PA-147 states that applications will be submitted in the same manner as PA-106, meaning that I will be obligated to, and must comply with those standards. This also means that I will be able to submit an application via I-SEL as stated in PA-106. PA-147 does not state I-SEL criteria because it does not outline or construct officer candidate selection procedures. PA-147 is simply a program that potential officer candidates of specific communities can apply to, to receive pay while attending college. BDCP is not a separate officer candidate selection process. BDCP board members do not select applicants to be officer candidates for communities, they select applicants to be accepted into BDCP, that is why no mention of I-SEL is made in the document. If you think I’m misinterpreting this information please let me know where and why! Here are the documents I used to get this information.
OPNAVINST 1120.13C - Officer Candidate Selection Process
PA-106 - SNA/SNFO
PA-147 - BDCP
BDCP is not a different board, BDCP is a program to supplement the primary PA for the designator a person is applying to. The parent designator will select at their specific board for either OCS or BDCP, that is why when results come out for SWO (for example) some will talk about getting selected for BDCP, that is also why the board results will specify BDCP for those selected on the selection sheet that is signed by the board members.

The purpose of ISEL is to get people who meet specific requirements to process for OCS immediately, the general rule is under 6 months, BDCP is a program that a person will have at least 1 year/1 school year left in order to get selected, so you can see those 2 things don't work together.
 

CaiqueB

SNA BDCP Applicant
BDCP is not a different board, BDCP is a program to supplement the primary PA for the designator a person is applying to. The parent designator will select at their specific board for either OCS or BDCP, that is why when results come out for SWO (for example) some will talk about getting selected for BDCP, that is also why the board results will specify BDCP for those selected on the selection sheet that is signed by the board members.

The purpose of ISEL is to get people who meet specific requirements to process for OCS immediately, the general rule is under 6 months, BDCP is a program that a person will have at least 1 year/1 school year left in order to get selected, so you can see those 2 things don't work together.
Thank you for the clarification! I guess I'll just have to wait and see if my recruiter sent in my application on time :/
 

FormerRecruitingGuru

Making Recruiting Great Again
BDCP is not a different board, BDCP is a program to supplement the primary PA for the designator a person is applying to. The parent designator will select at their specific board for either OCS or BDCP, that is why when results come out for SWO (for example) some will talk about getting selected for BDCP, that is also why the board results will specify BDCP for those selected on the selection sheet that is signed by the board members.

The purpose of ISEL is to get people who meet specific requirements to process for OCS immediately, the general rule is under 6 months, BDCP is a program that a person will have at least 1 year/1 school year left in order to get selected, so you can see those 2 things don't work together.

Thank you for explaining it better than me. 😊
 
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