• Please take a moment and update your account profile. If you have an updated account profile with basic information on why you are on Air Warriors it will help other people respond to your posts. How do you update your profile you ask?

    Go here:

    Edit Account Details and Profile

1,001 questions about the ASTB (post your scores & ask your questions here!)

Bruce_Almighty

Well-Known Member
- Same here. Ended up with 3/5/3. I think since we fly, there must be that factor where we have to unlearn everything we have learned. It’s easier for someone who has never flown to do better at PBM section that us pilots, and I have an instrument rating. I fucked up big time on the dichotic listening, was hitting the trigger for odd numbers and clutch for even, and it was supposed to be opposite. Basically I took the first time cold as a way to find out what exactly would be in the ASTB and rushed through the whole thing. I did so bad, I didn’t even get the emergencies to do. Hopefully second time around I get those 7’s.

You might be right with this. I had a second post discussing that I increased my Pilot score by using a combat Flight Sim Ace Combat 6 with an actual stick and throttle for the game. Focusing on purely on gun kills which simulated the the PBM really well. Hope this helps.
 

CRunner01

Member
ASTB Study Materials on Google Drive
Hey everyone,
This forum has been extremely helpful to me in getting ready for the ASTB so thanks so much to all of you! I made a Google Drive folder that has practice tests and review for the OAR subsections plus the ANIT. Some of the stuff is already on the forum while hopefully some is new. Hope this helps!

Link:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1yF6a44EmkonbPCXAlR-W2w-GGjcSu_uV?usp=sharing
 

Joshua 631625

New Member
What in particular did you
Hey guys, last Friday I took the ASTB. I scored a 9/8/8 68.

My first attempt, I got a 7/5/6 58. This wasn't passing, since the Marines need a 6 on the PFAR. It wasn't a bad score but the standards are there for the Marines.

This thread has been extremely helpful in terms of knowing what material to expect. I want to share my mistakes and successes in terms of test taking in general.

Here is a list of my mistakes the first time, and how I fixed them the second time.

Too much caffeine on test day, not enough sleep the night before.
I was talking to a candidate who graduated OCS with an aviation contract and he said he took a 5 hour energy before the PBM. I took that to the extreme and had a 5 hour shot in the morning and a medium coffee before/during the ASTB. However, I wasn’t energized. I became anxious, especially during the PBM. This led me to mess up the emergency procedures and be too aggressive with the controls. In addition, I was so wired that I made some stupid mistakes on the math section.

The second attempt, I made sure to get 8 hours of sleep the night before. I pushed back all my other school assignments and prioritized sleep. I only had my standard cup of coffee that morning. I came into the test energized but not overly wired.

Thinking I “didn’t need to study for” certain sections.
I scored highly on my SAT back in high school and was confident I could do well on similar math and reading questions. I am a mathematics major so I thought that the math section would be easy. That I just needed to focus on the mechanical section and ANIT. That’s what some other people from my school were saying and they passed. NOPE. There were a ton of word problems that were hard to comprehend at first, and they got the best of me. The reading section was also dry as hell with a ton of navy specific material, so that was hard to get through.

It didn’t help that I am a math major and I had barely done any hardcore reading for the last 2 years. I bought the recent Barrons military flight aptitude test book, with the SIFT and AFOQT included in that book. I did math and reading practice sections from those tests as well as from the ASTB practice tests.

I also used the the Barron’s GMAT math workbook to get additional practice with complicated algebra problems and word problems. For word problems, know the mixture problems, distance/rate/time, and “work done” problems especially well. I thought the GMAT math was MUCH closer to what’s on the ASTB than what was in the ASTB practice tests I used.

Rushing the test. Do NOT rush.
I was more careful on the math section and paid attention to what the problem was asking for. For the reading, I read the entire passage carefully and did not gloss over it like I did with the SAT way back. There’s no way around reading the entire passage, since there will always be 2 answers that seem correct, but you’ll know which one is better if you really read the passage. Also, there is only one formal break. However, make sure to practice enough so that you get done with each section with 3-5 minutes left. The first attempt I just moved onto the next section.

The second time, I used this time to get up and stretch, do a few pushups, and refocus. This mental break was crucial, since the test was 2+ hours. During the PBM I did the exact same thing. I took time between each section, reading the instructions carefully. Make sure you do that since if you don’t know the procedures well enough it will affect your score. Before dichotic listening I really made sure my headphones were on the right way. There will be a practice section before the real scored section for each of the PBM tests. I took a 30 sec break between the practice section and real deal section to regroup, stand up, stretch, etc. And for the UAV section, everyone says that response time matters more. However, my responses were around 1-2 seconds during my first attempt and I got a lot more wrong. During the second attempt I responded in 3+ seconds on some but I only got 1 wrong, and I scored much higher on the PFAR. There is no rush. Your score matters, not how quickly you did it. Remember to breathe and stretch between sections. Remember to breathe during sections and relax.

Putting too much pressure on myself.
Often I put a lot of pressure on myself to get a perfect score, max the PFT, etc. but this will work against you in the ASTB. The first time I took it I felt I had something to prove to the OSOs, that I needed to get a 9/9/9 80 or else. I know the competitive nature of the pilot selection process so that wound me up more.

However, after the first attempt I sat down with my OSO to discuss ground contract options, in case the ASTB just wasn’t going to work out. It turned out that there were a lot of ground MOS’s that I would love to take, so the ASTB was not a do or die test for me. Going into the second attempt, I just made sure to do my best and to work smartly. To stay present. I honestly didn’t expect to pass going in, but I wanted to give it a try anyways to not miss any opportunities.

Being relaxed helped me perform much better - especially on the PBM. In fact, I started to have fun with the PBM when we moved to the emergency procedures section.
For the PBM I got familiar with vertical tracking but wasn't as good with the joystick. I remember struggling a ton with it, so for the vertical tracking + aircraft tracking and vertical tracking + aircraft tracking + dichotic listening test I concentrated on getting the vertical tracking and listening only. So win some lose some- they say you need to do everything, but just focus on what you can get. I'm pretty sure I neglected the joystick by the end.

Fixating too much on the ASTB and school and letting my fitness take the backseat.
Normally it’s alright to put fitness on the back burner for regular school finals, but it’s not that way with the ASTB. I am a USMC candidate so my PFT is crucial to my selection. I studied hardcore for the first attempt and mistakenly stopped running and got a sh*t run time.

This time around, I designated some hours of the to ASTB review, but other than that, I didn’t think of the ASTB at all. I also stepped up my running - I was running at least 30 mins every day with a lot of speed work. I did at least 25-30 miles a week, just putting in the volume. I love weightlifting, but I knew I should get good at running.

I would pack my running shoes in my backpack wherever I went. I’d leave my backpack in my locked TA office and go for a run in the middle of the school day. I’d run right after doing a practice test for the ASTB. Ended up running a 19:50 on a 3 mile to a 20:36 5k, even while studying for the ASTB and midterms.

So here’s the summary:
  • First attempt: anxious, overcaffeinated, too much negative pressure, fixated and desperate, tested hard.
  • Second attempt: motivated but positive, well rounded studying and life, well-rested and moderately caffeinated, knew I had options, not rushed, tested smart.
I think needing to take the test twice was a blessing in disguise, since I was familiar with the testing environment and format.

I’ll put in any additional tips if you guys want!

What in particular did you utilize to study form this feed. I am close to finishing up my degree and currently hold a 3.94 but am getting nervous about taking this test. Thank you in advance for your help.
 

TlaurenS93

Tyler Lauren
I

I'm only an applicant so take this for what its worth, but based on what I've read, you need to get a higher ASTB to be more competitive. You must be pretty smart to get a decent GPA in computer science, so just study and retake the test. You don't want to be submitting a minimum score like those 4s. The test really isnt hard, just treat it like a job and study alot. I can send you a ton of info that I used to get a good score in only a week or two. let me know!
Can you send me some useful info as well? I've been skimming through this thread for almost 2 hours.. I would really appreciate it!

My email is Tlso93@hotmail.com

Thanks!
 
I posted earlier about taking the ASTB for the second time. I was lucky enough to nail this test on my third and final time. My first set of scores were a 37, 4,7,4. I took the test a second time with a 40, 4,5,4. Taking the test a final time I was able to score 45, 6,8,6. Huge shoutout to CHOPS_avn for the help. I will tell you guys I am not the best person at math. I recommend giving it a go for a third if you are on the edge. It was a huge gamble on my part but I wanted to apply for pilot really bad.
MATH
I used Learning Express Officer candidate book, Barron's flight guide, and 2018 ASTB guide. I can not stress enough these books are inadequate for anyone with math struggles. The file of 114 math questions was absolutely essential. I know for a shadow of a doubt that doing these problems over and over again helped me get better scores. I can not stress enough, doing these problems will help you. The ASTB personal study guide and the gouges were really helpful.
Reading
Questions were straightforward, many had questions that 2-3 of the answers made no sense or little words went against the paragraph. Fairly simple and straightforward.
Mechanical
I used a few items to study for this section. My main studying came from the ASTB Mechanical flashcards. They helped out a lot and the bulk of my questions came from this.
https://www.proprofs.com/flashcards/story.php?title=astb-mechanical-comprehension-test
I will recommend another book that people have not read. My major was aeronautical science at Embry-Riddle. This book I am attaching below covers math as well, Physic's/Mechanical, and electrical theory. A lot of mechanical questions that are on the ASTB came from this book. Covering, the formulas for work, newtons laws, mechanical advantage, leverage, and other principles. The book has a huge section of the electrical theory that you can draw from. I had a question like, what registers ohms? This book should help below.
ANIT
I am a pilot so this stuff came really easy to me. Study the Gleim pilots guide to help give you a base or use the gouges. I had similar questions on this test.
UAV
Honestly, pilot came back into play again. I did fairly well from my flying on a regular basis. The UAV videos helped some but this stuff came naturally to me. My bulk of missed answers came from the questions where you were coming from the northwest and headed southeast for example. For some reason, the arrow pointing northwest or northeast was easy for me but I struggled on the arrow pointing southeast or southwest. Flight simulators can help a lot with this. It's kind of like looking at a runway.
PBM
I won't go into detail because a lot of people have done this already. My best recommendation for you all is, using a flight sim. If you can spare the expense ACE COMBAT 6 FIRES of LIBERATION on XBOX 360. I purchased the game years ago and play it religiously. XBOX 360 has a joystick and throttle that you can buy for ACE COMBAT 6. Just google ACE COMBAT 6 joystick and throttle. From someone that got an 8 on PBM, buy a stick and throttle. From personal experience, I did not have the stick and throttle for my ACE COMBAT video game on my previous two attempts. Believe me, using that stick and throttle for a combat simulator such as ACE COMBAT made my reaction time much quicker and inverted controls were natural to me. I constantly went for gun kills instead of missile kills which helped me track targets better. Gun kills used a targeting reticle and it paid off. There was a complete difference in my skills going from a XBOX controller to the Joystick. It was a complete game changer and worth the expense.
Listening test was really just reactions and honestly being a pilot helped. Constantly listening for numbers from atc regarding the tail number and others was the edge for me.
Emergency Scenarios
Right down the scenarios like everyone says. I wrote down in huge letters each scenario. I wrote the direction and area of the throttles in large letters. On each scenario, I included the task, control, percentage and direction of control for the percentage. Writing down in large letters almost filling up the page helped tremendously.
My OAR score is the only thing I worry about but I am really satisfied with my ASTB scores especially pilot. I am applying for the February pilot, well see how it goes. If there's any questions regarding pilot items I am happy to help for the test. That is my area of expertise and degree lol. Good luck to everyone else applying.


images
I take it again for the 3rd time on 28 Jan. Your post has given me hope! Lol. Thanks for the gouge!
 

papacarter

College Student
Took it yesterday and got 52 6/7/7. The math very easy for me but the mechanical portion kicked my ass. I forgot so much of that stuff from when I took physics. Reading was good, not great. The ASTB portion was kind of easy for me. I just reviewed some pages of a study guide and memorized the UAV maps that everyone posts.

Computer and Electrical Engineering
GPA 3.36
52 6/7/7
Applying for 1.) SNA, 2.) EDO, 3.) NFO
 

josh31

New Member
First off, big thanks to everyone who's taken the time to post tips and info in here.

Took it recently and scored a 47 5/7/6...my recruiter seemed happy that I passed, but I was honestly pretty disappointed in myself. I feel like I put too much effort into studying for the aviation portion, and neglected the OAR material.

I know the only person who can make the decision to retake it is me...but I'd like some input on whether it's worth retaking it or not. I meet the standards for Marines, however i'm not sure that the OAR portion will be competitive for the board selection.

Shooting for SNA
Prior service Marine
GPA: 3.5
Major: Accounting
PFT: 264
 

Rahul Gupta

Active Member
First off, big thanks to everyone who's taken the time to post tips and info in here.

Took it recently and scored a 47 5/7/6...my recruiter seemed happy that I passed, but I was honestly pretty disappointed in myself. I feel like I put too much effort into studying for the aviation portion, and neglected the OAR material.

I know the only person who can make the decision to retake it is me...but I'd like some input on whether it's worth retaking it or not. I meet the standards for Marines, however i'm not sure that the OAR portion will be competitive for the board selection.

Shooting for SNA
Prior service Marine
GPA: 3.5
Major: Accounting
PFT: 264
If it is the Marines that you are gunning for, from what I have heard, they don't give a %*&# about the OAR. Only the x/x/x scores. I've been told that your target scores should be a 6/6/6...so w/ the scores u have I'd say ur in. Just double check and make sure w/ your Marine OSO if your scores are good. To give u a reference frame, my roommate got a 6/6/5 (I believe) and got a air contract recently. So, your looking great! However, he has a Marine PFT of about a 278. Your PT scores also look good so I'd say you are in!
 
Took my first OAR and got a 45 with no study time. Studying 3-4hrs a day for the past month and taking my next one in the beginning of December. My goal is definitely mid-50s. My background is a 3.0 gpa in Business and Finance, and going for supply. Plenty of material on this site has helped and I'll keep y'all updated for sure, good luck to everyone that's applying!
How’d you do??
 

josh31

New Member
If it is the Marines that you are gunning for, from what I have heard, they don't give a %*&# about the OAR. Only the x/x/x scores. I've been told that your target scores should be a 6/6/6...so w/ the scores u have I'd say ur in. Just double check and make sure w/ your Marine OSO if your scores are good. To give u a reference frame, my roommate got a 6/6/5 (I believe) and got a air contract recently. So, your looking great! However, he has a Marine PFT of about a 278. Your PT scores also look good so I'd say you are in!
Awesome man, that puts me at ease a bit. Thanks for the input.
 

RustedDuck

New Member
Hey everyone,

Took the ASTB today and got 61 8/8/7
Since this thread made it possible, I thought I would share my experience.

Background: Electrical Engineering Degree gpa 3.5; Minors in Math and Physics; a few flight hours; passed private pilot ground school.

Math: Rate/Distance; algebra; exponents.
The problems I got all seemed straight-forward, nothing too complicated.
Tip: Good mental math is helpful. I had to get mine up to speed due to severe calculator abuse.

Reading:
Tip: Do as many practice tests that you can. Time yourself. Practice focusing intently on reading for long periods of time.

Mechanical: Pulleys (but more complicated than what I studied); 1 pitot static; work/energy conceptual problems; 1 electrical; 1 about splicing
There were a few questions that I had to guess.
Tip: This section requires a solid understanding of statics, dynamics, physics. I recommend lots of videos on the listed topics. If you don't have a technical degree, I recommend putting in some time on this.

Aviation/Nautical: WWII questions. When guessing, I clicked on the airframe that I recognized.
Tip. Watch a bunch of WWII/Korean/Vietnam/Gulf War documentaries over ships and aircraft. I recommend reading the entire Airman's handbook of Aeronautical Knowledge and understanding how each instrument works and the physics behind it (it will help with the mechanical part too).

UAV: Missed one; tried to go fast but still maintain accuracy. ~1.5s each.
Tip: Do the flashcards on these until you don't need to think about it.

NATFI: Just think which option you wouldn't do or would absolutely never do.

Dichotic: I think I missed a few? I practiced this though. Really hard to tell when one ear gets "A" and the other "8." I created an audio file that had a automated voice reading off letters and numbers.
Tip: Youtube - dichotic listening. Listen to two different podcasts or whatever in separate ears.

Tracking: I kept forgetting the stick was inverted despite playing inverted video games and that the throttle was not inverted... At first I avoided max deflection of stick/throttle, but then realized I couldn't keep up with the target.
Tip: Don't forget that the stick is inverted. Play games that involve multitasking. Try to adapt to the dead zone on the stick and throttle. Don't be afraid of maximum deflection. After a while the airplane moves almost as fast as the tracker, so if you want to stay on target, you have to keep up with it. If/when you are out of range, get back on the target QUICKLY.

Dichotic/Tracking: I practiced this by playing multitask games while listening to a string of letters and numbers. I am fairly sure it helped.
Tip: I believe the key here is to keep getting better at the tracking as the test continues. I started off a little shaky at first but once this section came I felt like I was doing better. Adapt quickly.

Emergency Procedure: I tried my best to track while fixing the emergency quickly
Tip: Just do the best you can. Read instructions

My advice:
Don't psych yourself out if you miss a problem or mess-up. Try to keep cool, and keep getting better as the test goes on. I know I missed a few.
The study guides and material on this thread are gold. Go back to when the test changed to the ASTB-E and start reading. If you can do all the problems here and in an in the other mentioned test prep books, I imagine you will do fine. If not, taking it again will help with the Performance Based sections.

The material on this thread will get you 60% there. Being a good test taker and building test taking skills will get you another 30%. But the last bit takes a lot of effort to know everything that could possibly be on the test. If it wasn't for ground school and some classes that I took, I would have missed several more. Spend as much time as you can afford on studying, every bit should help.

To everyone who posted before, thank you.
 

srichar1

Member
Taking the ASTB Jan 25th. Quick question regarding the UAV section (may have already been asked just couldn't find it in the forums): What direction is the drone or red dot going? Is the object going West or East? All the answers I've been getting from the flashcards would assume this object is heading East, but it is a little deceiving for me since the questions before this had a little red arrow showing which direction the aircraft is heading.

Screen Shot 2019-01-17 at 8.19.13 PM.png
 

Meyerkord

Well-Known Member
pilot
Taking the ASTB Jan 25th. Quick question regarding the UAV section (may have already been asked just couldn't find it in the forums): What direction is the drone or red dot going? Is the object going West or East? All the answers I've been getting from the flashcards would assume this object is heading East, but it is a little deceiving for me since the questions before this had a little red arrow showing which direction the aircraft is heading.

View attachment 20747
The tip of the yellow triangle is the direction the dot is heading. So in this picture, the dot is moving from left to right. Think of it like the tip of an arrow. The arrow points where the dot is moving.
 

thechosenfire

New Member
Hello
I just came out of the ASTB test today. My scores were 55 7/8/7.

Background: Mechanical engineering major, 3rd year
30 hours ish of private pilot lessons.

My first two attempts I scored around 55 5/5/6 ish both times. I was only using the barren's book I purchased on amazon.
This third try I spent hours sifting through this discussion looking for all the resources I could find. After spending hours and hours of skimming, I studied and skimmed all of the material I had collected.
I have inserted links below to the majority of the material I have found. They are links to google drives which have been created by other users.

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1qHP7UgdlcG_8MWka5XnTuNGl4Q-hqL3b
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1zCfQ7iTsFBRKJzH8shh2gs7SK15cv2sM
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1yF6a44EmkonbPCXAlR-W2w-GGjcSu_uV
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1s0TFbrfix-01JR_nBtxMF2pfE7mo3Apm

A few suggestions for those prepping to take it, I highly encourage you all to get a good night sleep before the test. This made the biggest difference in my ability to focus hard on the test during the time I was doing it. The first two attempts were while my semester was still going and had a ton of other things going on at the same time (especially since I am majoring in mechanical engineering) so I really didn't have much time to sit down and purely focus on the test when studying for it.
In addition to that, I highly suggest using the compass trick for the uav portion, trust me. And when you are allowed to practice the uav during the test, take advantage of that. I spent around 20 minutes going over the practice before entering the actual test in the apex software.
Finally, for me, it took me two tests to figure out by reading this discussion which number corresponds with the trigger and clutch button during the listening portion. When I did the test all 3 times, it skipped right past the instruction that showed which is which and straight into the test. If it wasn't for this discussion, I still wouldn't know which is which. For those who may encounter this issue, even numbers are trigger, odd are clutch. That is all I will say.

Cheers

Semper Fi
 
Top